Originally Posted by RÖENTGEEP

Maybe you could make an exception, and sell one VISE to Todd

Originally Posted by MOOSE_MACHINE

woooo, watch it, last time I brought that topic up he got defensive. Besides, everyone likes holes in there hands

Originally Posted by ReBilld

Evening fellas. Haven't been on much the last week or so. I got laid off last Friday, and have been on the phone, on line, and on edge all week trying to get another job lined up. I have another job, but the bad part is, it is North Carolina, about 4 1/2 hours from here. I'm going for the interview next Tuesday, but my brother in law who has worked there for 25+ years pulled some strings for me, and says he is 100% certain I have the job. I'll be a Senior Shop Technician at a Caterpillar dealer in the fork lift division. I'm gonna pull my camper down there and stay in it, and come home on the weekends until I can find some land. The plan is to find some land, build a shop on it, park the camper beside the shop, then start building a house. I plan on moving there for good. I am done with the coal industry and this state.

Originally Posted by ReBilld

That is about the way it is Nate. It's not that the coal-fired plants don't want to comply. The problem is, the government has given the EPA so much power, and free rein to do what ever they want. They have just gotten so RADICAL with their regulations that it is impossible for the coal-fired plants to meet the EPA's standards, so they pay ridiculous fines daily, and where does that money come from......the consumer. They just keep increasing the consumer rates one increase right after another to the point where the average working guy can't afford his power bill. Which, the average working guy here is usually working in something that is coal related, so he probably doesn't even have a job now because so many of the coal-fired plants are trying to convert to gas to get away from the constant beating they are taking from the government and the EPA. Then, the other half of the problem is the coal operators themselves. When coal prices go up, the all jump in and mine like there is no tomorrow and flood the market. So then you get what you have now.....millions of tons of coal stock piled that they can't sell, because the prices have dropped so much, they can't sell it for what it cost to mine it. It is a vicious cycle that has gotten even worse in the last 7 years since the EPA has been given such a big stick to beat every body with. I have nothing against clean energy and or even alternative energy, but all the bleeding heart radicals in the EPA think they are gonna change the world over night themselves, when the truth is, even if they were successful in carrying out all of their far fetched plans of cleaning up this and cleaning up that, the percentage of positive effect that it would have on the world's emissions and climate problems....global warming, and all the rest of the BS that they have used as an excuse to stomp out millions of people's livings, would be so minimal, that our grand kid's great, great grand kids would be lucky to see a difference. I say that because there are so many other countries in this whole big old world that aren't doing any of this that America is doing to try to control emissions, so what we are doing is not even a drop in a bucket. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do anything, but these idiots in the EPA live in a fairy tale in their own over-payed minds.

That's just my opinion though.

Originally Posted by ReBilld

I'll be a Senior Shop Technician at a Caterpillar dealer in the fork lift division.

Originally Posted by oldbird1965

Coal is not in good favor right now because the power companies don't spend the money to 'scrub' the emissions. To clean the emissions is money they don't want to spend. It can be done!

Originally Posted by cowmilker08

...... I do tend to agree with you in regards to the absolute power the EPA has been granted. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Originally Posted by MOOSE_MACHINE

This was my cousins truck. Now it's his wife's. Can you tell lol.

I thought the mirrors were bad cause I have never seen them down and never seen a trailer hooked to it, but now. WTF

Originally Posted by MOOSE_MACHINE

I guess you didn't read all of the post huh

P.s. Way to ruin a 7.3 LOL

Originally Posted by oldbird1965

What can I say Chris? I hauled coal trains all my life, should I be ashamed of myself for contributing to global warming? There is lots of alternatives out there, us human being just have to learn to stop chiting in our bed so our children and their children have a earth to live on. I've already said enough, I'm not going to get into a pissing match over it.

Originally Posted by ReBilld

That is about the way it is Nate. It's not that the coal-fired plants don't want to comply. The problem is, the government has given the EPA so much power, and free rein to do what ever they want. They have just gotten so RADICAL with their regulations that it is impossible for the coal-fired plants to meet the EPA's standards, so they pay ridiculous fines daily, and where does that money come from......the consumer. They just keep increasing the consumer rates one increase right after another to the point where the average working guy can't afford his power bill. Which, the average working guy here is usually working in something that is coal related, so he probably doesn't even have a job now because so many of the coal-fired plants are trying to convert to gas to get away from the constant beating they are taking from the government and the EPA. Then, the other half of the problem is the coal operators themselves. When coal prices go up, the all jump in and mine like there is no tomorrow and flood the market. So then you get what you have now.....millions of tons of coal stock piled that they can't sell, because the prices have dropped so much, they can't sell it for what it cost to mine it. It is a vicious cycle that has gotten even worse in the last 7 years since the EPA has been given such a big stick to beat every body with. I have nothing against clean energy and or even alternative energy, but all the bleeding heart radicals in the EPA think they are gonna change the world over night themselves, when the truth is, even if they were successful in carrying out all of their far fetched plans of cleaning up this and cleaning up that, the percentage of positive effect that it would have on the world's emissions and climate problems....global warming, and all the rest of the BS that they have used as an excuse to stomp out millions of people's livings, would be so minimal, that our grand kid's great, great grand kids would be lucky to see a difference. I say that because there are so many other countries in this whole big old world that aren't doing any of this that America is doing to try to control emissions, so what we are doing is not even a drop in a bucket. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do anything, but these idiots in the EPA live in a fairy tale in their own over-payed minds.

That's just my opinion though.

Originally Posted by ReBilld

LOL!! I didn't mean to start a pissing match buddy. I may have come off wrong. I agree with you too, and I'm not against alternative energy, or clean energy, But the EPA is making it impossible to comply with ridiculous regulations. Most of the coal mined in the US is going to China now. They and numerous other countries are burning the daylights out of it with little or no emissions control. It all goes into the same atmosphere. One little clean spec of sky above the US isn't gonna save the whole world. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do anything at all, but it seems that the EPA wants to fix all the world's pollution problems from right here, no matter the cost. I'm all for alternatives that will create jobs, keep everybody working, and stimulate the economy, but I haven't seen any of that here, and believe me, I've been looking! LOL!