1999 to 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

good for offroading?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #16  
Old 04-23-2012, 09:18 AM
kd0axs's Avatar
kd0axs
kd0axs is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Nowthen, MN
Posts: 2,000
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
The Super Duty is not a great off road vehicle for a couple reasons.

1. It's a big, heavy beast. The lightest SDs come in around 7000 lbs, and some are over 8000 lbs. As already said, a smaller, lighter, more agile vehicle will be much more capable off road.

2. Stiff suspension designed for carrying heavy loads means little articulation. A good off road vehicle will have soft suspension with lots of wheel travel. You could modify a SD suspension to do this, but then you lose your load carrying capability.

That said, if it were between those two trucks, I would definitely go with the F-250. That poor Chevy will eat CV shafts left and right. I know this because I have several friends that tried to lift and off road those trucks, all with the same results. That and the fact that I just couldn't bring myself to own a Chevy in the first place.
 
  #17  
Old 04-23-2012, 09:28 AM
Gastic3514's Avatar
Gastic3514
Gastic3514 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I have been many many places off-road in my Super Duty. Ground clearance and tires, but we all know that.

I agree on the solid axle comment.

A pickup truck can do far more than most can imagine.

As for your C1500 vs Super Duty, I really think the biggest thing is what will you be using for when NOT off road?
 
  #18  
Old 04-23-2012, 10:03 AM
abendx's Avatar
abendx
abendx is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Oxnard, CA
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gastic3514
A pickup truck can do far more than most can imagine.
This! Of course.... you'll have to ditch the bed, shorten the wheel base, bob the head and tail, clearance the front (i.e. remove a ton of sheet metal)..... the list goes on. You'll end up with a truggy if you want a real four wheeler on a full sized truck platform (and you're still compromising). For some reason, I rarely see Ford's built this way, it seems to be a Chevy thing when it comes to full sized trucks? Not sure why.

Then again.... my brain is wrapped around the kind of wheeling we have here, if I lived in the south and had lots of mudding to do, my opinion changes.

Really, the best opinion I can give you is buy the truck you like best and get a trailer and Jeep/Toy.

Here is a couple of pics of buddy that I wheel with.... IMO, this is a full sized done correctly to wheel rocks.





Good luck on your new truck... pics when you get it!
 
  #19  
Old 04-23-2012, 10:42 AM
SuperDutyScaler's Avatar
SuperDutyScaler
SuperDutyScaler is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,381
Received 35 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by kd0axs
The Super Duty is not a great off road vehicle for a couple reasons.
2. Stiff suspension designed for carrying heavy loads means little articulation. A good off road vehicle will have soft suspension with lots of wheel travel. You could modify a SD suspension to do this, but then you lose your load carrying capability.
who says a F350 cant flex!

 
  #20  
Old 04-23-2012, 10:49 AM
SuperDutyScaler's Avatar
SuperDutyScaler
SuperDutyScaler is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,381
Received 35 Likes on 32 Posts
but Redford said it best the OP needs to chime back in and tell us whats he thinks off roading is and what he plans on doing. The F250 should have gears and a rear locker installed, plan on around $2,000 to $2,500 for that, then plan on replacing the front unit bearings alot if your running 35's or bigger tires in a off road condition on the SD. Chevy is gonna blow the front CV's and unit bearings faster than the ford, it should have the proper gears and locker installed for offroad use. plus the smaller axles, driveshafts, weaker trans and tcase..... both trucks should have front winch bumpers and winches installed, the SD will need at least a 12k winch, id go 15 or 16k warn if i was using my F350 off road
 
  #21  
Old 04-23-2012, 10:51 AM
SuperDutyScaler's Avatar
SuperDutyScaler
SuperDutyScaler is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,381
Received 35 Likes on 32 Posts
ive had my F350 in mud before, ill never do it again! My best truck ever was my 1979 Ford Bronco, solid axles, coil front springs that flex like crazy, small enough to get through tight trails, and a 400M motor thats a monster. My 1977 F150 is almost as good but the long bed is hard to get through tight trails
 
  #22  
Old 04-23-2012, 11:31 AM
lllateralus's Avatar
lllateralus
lllateralus is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
(regarding the earlier comment about the super duty sinking in the sand)

My 2001 F350 7.3 was unstoppable in the sand at pismo Beach in Ca last summer. The whole weekend the damn thing was pulling stuck truck AND trailers to their camping spots, then at the end of the weekend, getting my 2 buddies truck and trailers OUT of the sand.

It was a true beast in the sand.

 
  #23  
Old 04-23-2012, 12:04 PM
Rancho Suspension's Avatar
Rancho Suspension
Rancho Suspension is offline
Former Vendor
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 930
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Talking

Do it!

One of the sillier F-250 from Petersen's 4 Wheel and Off-Road.
They have taken one on 2 Ulitimate Adventures.
Here is a video of it being dragged through Upper Helldorado.
Ultimate adventure Superduty - Clifton Slay - YouTube



 
  #24  
Old 04-23-2012, 02:45 PM
A/Ox4's Avatar
A/Ox4
A/Ox4 is offline
9 ECHO 1

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Missouri
Posts: 12,450
Received 35 Likes on 30 Posts
Go with the superduty. Dont listen to these clowns, the SuperDuty is my favorite off road machine. If you want to rock climb, then get a jeep, but if you just want to hit some nice trails, there is nothing better than a properly outfitted F250.

I have NEVER gotten stuck and I've done snow, sand, mud and dirt.
In these snow pics I didnt even have chains. I love my truck and trust it to take me anywhere.

That said, any vehicle can only do so much, the rest is up to the driver.





In this one I was stuck in 2wd. It couldnt push the tires up and over. Threw it into 4x4 and my properly working ESOF locked the hubs and I crawled out with ease.

thats for all the ESOF haters!! I've never had a problem with mine :P









 
  #25  
Old 04-23-2012, 03:27 PM
maverick22's Avatar
maverick22
maverick22 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Central Kansas
Posts: 935
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
No offense Trey but none of that is very severe. As Redford pointed out we really need to know what his idea of offroad is. I've got a '95 F150 and a 2005 F250, the 150 can run circles around the 250 offroad. Part of it is the factory limited slip still works in the 150 where the one in the 250 doesn't hold at all. But I've had the 150 through snow 3+ feet deep w/ the front bumper acting like a plow and it never even slipped. Mud is even worse if there's no bottom, the 150 can at least sort of float on top where the 250 sinks like a stone. That said, if my only choices were a Chevy or the F250, I'd take the Ford every day of the week though.
 
  #26  
Old 04-23-2012, 05:00 PM
A/Ox4's Avatar
A/Ox4
A/Ox4 is offline
9 ECHO 1

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Missouri
Posts: 12,450
Received 35 Likes on 30 Posts
Originally Posted by maverick22
No offense Trey but none of that is very severe. As Redford pointed out we really need to know what his idea of offroad is. I've got a '95 F150 and a 2005 F250, the 150 can run circles around the 250 offroad. Part of it is the factory limited slip still works in the 150 where the one in the 250 doesn't hold at all. But I've had the 150 through snow 3+ feet deep w/ the front bumper acting like a plow and it never even slipped. Mud is even worse if there's no bottom, the 150 can at least sort of float on top where the 250 sinks like a stone. That said, if my only choices were a Chevy or the F250, I'd take the Ford every day of the week though.
I didnt say it was severe. I said for hitting some trails. I didnt get out of my truck at the worst parts in the trails because, well, I was busy driving. If you want extreme off roading you need a jeep, other wise an F250 will serve you well.
 
  #27  
Old 04-23-2012, 05:10 PM
Onus's Avatar
Onus
Onus is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Redmond, WA
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
That snow is nothing. I drive through that depth stuff in the winter with my 2wd f250 and with no weight. Plus being really front heavy.

I would say a pickup is very bad offroad vehicle. Too heavy, too big. Jeeps have lots more aftermarket support, and are cheaper if you want to go offroad.
 
  #28  
Old 04-23-2012, 07:58 PM
sloppyfoos's Avatar
sloppyfoos
sloppyfoos is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you for all of the replies so far! I guess to clarify, I live in southern Iowa and will probably not be doing any mud holes unless I accidentally drive across one. My 'off roading' thoughts are mainly driving around in snow, and going through fields/farmland to get to fishing/hunting spots. (kinda boring I know...) But this seems like a major offroading journey to someone who only has a Kia and a mini-van. Hey, getting a new-to-me truck is a start! I just wanted a solid truck that wont let me down and these are the two options that I found and can afford. And a little more info that may (or may not) help you help me decide on the best option -- the Chevy has a 6inch suspension lift with 3inch body lift with 37inch SuperSwamper tires, and the I am not sure how big the Ford's lift is but it has tires that are LT315 / 75 R16's on it right now that look about right if not just a tiny bit small on the truck. I am guessing they could house tires that are just a little bit bigger and be fine on it...Again, thank you for all of the opinions so far for my newbie-ish questions. Im trying to learn all that I can by reading older posts and want to make an informed decision. Have a good day.
 
  #29  
Old 04-23-2012, 08:07 PM
abendx's Avatar
abendx
abendx is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Oxnard, CA
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rancho Suspension
Do it!
[LEFT]
One of the sillier F-250 from Petersen's 4 Wheel and Off-Road.
They have taken one on 2 Ulitimate Adventures.
Here is a video of it being dragged through Upper Helldorado.
How old is that video, Clifton isn't even running his own wheels?

lol... good PR move, I've seen some other companies do similar stunts, but in the end, it's not on the OPs radar.... he'd have already found PBB if that was the case.

The question of what is the OP planning to wheel on was a good one. The examples of graded fire roads and sand dunes are actually spots where a truck of this size might do well.
 
  #30  
Old 04-23-2012, 08:10 PM
abendx's Avatar
abendx
abendx is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Oxnard, CA
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by sloppyfoos
My 'off roading' thoughts are mainly driving around in snow, and going through fields/farmland to get to fishing/hunting spots. (kinda boring I know...) But this seems like a major offroading journey to someone who only has a Kia and a mini-van. Hey, getting a new-to-me truck is a start! I just wanted a solid truck that wont let me down and these are the two options that I found and can afford.
Sounds like either truck would suit your needs..... even in a stock 4x4 configuration. Insure a locker in the rear with some good mud tires and you'll be golden.
 


Quick Reply: good for offroading?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:41 PM.