T444E water pump
#32
I believe this is the link you guys or gals may be looking for. It is the IH upgrade write up. I hope it ok to post on our site as it goes thru another site and then comes back to our site for the PDF file.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...Dg61XQ&cad=rja
and if you want the direct link on our site it is here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62394&%3Bd=1349603865
Just type in IH Water pump upgrade in google and the fun begins.
I know it is petty and I am begging but my green dots above could use some love. I am at about 165 points and I do contribute a lot on this site.
Dwayne
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...Dg61XQ&cad=rja
and if you want the direct link on our site it is here.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62394&%3Bd=1349603865
Just type in IH Water pump upgrade in google and the fun begins.
I know it is petty and I am begging but my green dots above could use some love. I am at about 165 points and I do contribute a lot on this site.
Dwayne
Last edited by 1fixitman; 11-21-2012 at 10:00 AM. Reason: More info
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Everything has arrived for the pump install. Now I need to wait for the weekend to do the job. All the parts came in at just under $250 total. I could have saved money by not getting the fittings from JEGS, but everything else was as cheap as I could find it. IH was the only place to get the 110 mm long bolts without waiting a week for shipping. There are three spots on the pump face where I will need to file down MINOR imperfections. The pump is assembled in USA...cast in China. It has a seriously heavy duty bearing in it, and is waaayyyyy heavier than the stock aluminum pump.THE LARGER BLUE FITTING IN THIS PHOTO IS NOT NEEDED UNLESS YOU HAVE AN OBS TRUCK
Last edited by Nicmike; 12-07-2012 at 11:48 AM. Reason: NEW INFO
#39
Since the pump is cast iron, I am going to paint it Ford blue to keep rust off/out. I already have the paint, so no cost there. Just need to file down the boss right above the filter bypass valve. No letters/numbers cast near the pulley either, so no grinding there (as some have had to do).
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Everything has arrived for the pump install. Now I need to wait for the weekend to do the job. All the parts came in at just under $250 total. I could have saved money by not getting the fittings from JEGS, but everything else was as cheap as I could find it. IH was the only place to get the 110 mm long bolts without waiting a week for shipping. There are three spots on the pump face where I will need to file down MINOR imperfections. The pump is assembled in USA...cast in China. It has a seriously heavy duty bearing in it, and is waaayyyyy heavier than the stock aluminum pump.
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Parts list has already been given in post #17, but I will do another that I modified from that one.
I am using all new bolts on my pump, however you MAY RE-USE your old bolts to save some money. These are low torque bolts, so your old ones are fine if you are on a tight budget. You will need to buy just a couple of bolts to go with your old ones - 2 x 60mm and 1 x 110mm if you re-use the old bolts.
You need to decide what type of coolant you will be using BEFORE you buy a filter to put on this pump (non-SCA vs SCA charged). Fleetguard WF2071 coolant filter w/4 SCA is an option/example that you would use with the green coolant. Thoroughly flush the system before doing this upgrade regardless of whether you are switching coolant type or not. You need to get everything out of the system (sand and other contaminants) to make this pump really go the distance for you.
Here is another version of the same list from post #17 with parts I did not need/use on my 2001 7.3L removed: (most of the credit for this list goes to FTE member TARM)
1831676C92 The Water Pump (I got this at Bus Parts Experts) $145 shipped
1817958C1 [x3] Bolt M8 x 1.25 x 30mm (Lowes-in stock) 3=$2
1817811C1 [x2] Bolt M8 x 1.25 x 60mm (Lowes-in stock) 2=$2
1818693C1 [x4] Bolt M8 x 1.25 x 110mm (International or NAPA has them in stock) 4=$11
Stant 205° #14252 (thermostat) I haven't bought mine yet...still deciding which to go with. *****YOU CANNOT USE A LONG STEM THERMOSTAT ON THIS PUMP ACCORDING TO OTHERS WHO HAVE DONE THIS***** In looking at my new pump, I am 100% sure this is correct. Other options for the short thermostat are Gates #33180/Car Quest#329-72/Napa #371-203 for the 203* thermo. O'Reilly's part number is 4252 for another option.
NAPA FM124 Flexihose Radiator Hose $52 and the Gates Green stripe flex hose #26517 - also $52 at O'Reilly's OUCH!!!
3/4 NPT to 1" male hose barb THIS PART IS ONLY NEEDED FOR AN OBS TRUCK( I bought 45 degree from JEGS) 1=$19.99 You can save a lot of money here and the one below by going local or using straight fittings...about $8-10 per fitting.
1/2 NPT to 5/8 male hose barb ( I bought 45 degree from JEGS) 1=$14.99
-205 Viton o-ring (I bought from the o-ring store dot com) 10=$5
Ford/New Holland water filter #CF4900 (you can get these filters in various brands anywhere with/without SCA charge e.g. NAPA 4070 for non-SCA or 4071 with SCA charge) 1=$11 with SCA or 1=$6 without SCA
6' of 5/8 heater hose (any auto-parts store) $9.
I could have done this for around $220 if I had been more patient with my parts buying and gotten non-45 degree hose fittings locally, a non-SCA filter from someone like Fleetfilter.com, and re-used my old bolts.
I think this is it. Let me know if I left anything out. I will find out this weekend if you guys don't notice anything obvious.
I am using all new bolts on my pump, however you MAY RE-USE your old bolts to save some money. These are low torque bolts, so your old ones are fine if you are on a tight budget. You will need to buy just a couple of bolts to go with your old ones - 2 x 60mm and 1 x 110mm if you re-use the old bolts.
You need to decide what type of coolant you will be using BEFORE you buy a filter to put on this pump (non-SCA vs SCA charged). Fleetguard WF2071 coolant filter w/4 SCA is an option/example that you would use with the green coolant. Thoroughly flush the system before doing this upgrade regardless of whether you are switching coolant type or not. You need to get everything out of the system (sand and other contaminants) to make this pump really go the distance for you.
Here is another version of the same list from post #17 with parts I did not need/use on my 2001 7.3L removed: (most of the credit for this list goes to FTE member TARM)
1831676C92 The Water Pump (I got this at Bus Parts Experts) $145 shipped
1817958C1 [x3] Bolt M8 x 1.25 x 30mm (Lowes-in stock) 3=$2
1817811C1 [x2] Bolt M8 x 1.25 x 60mm (Lowes-in stock) 2=$2
1818693C1 [x4] Bolt M8 x 1.25 x 110mm (International or NAPA has them in stock) 4=$11
Stant 205° #14252 (thermostat) I haven't bought mine yet...still deciding which to go with. *****YOU CANNOT USE A LONG STEM THERMOSTAT ON THIS PUMP ACCORDING TO OTHERS WHO HAVE DONE THIS***** In looking at my new pump, I am 100% sure this is correct. Other options for the short thermostat are Gates #33180/Car Quest#329-72/Napa #371-203 for the 203* thermo. O'Reilly's part number is 4252 for another option.
NAPA FM124 Flexihose Radiator Hose $52 and the Gates Green stripe flex hose #26517 - also $52 at O'Reilly's OUCH!!!
3/4 NPT to 1" male hose barb THIS PART IS ONLY NEEDED FOR AN OBS TRUCK( I bought 45 degree from JEGS) 1=$19.99 You can save a lot of money here and the one below by going local or using straight fittings...about $8-10 per fitting.
1/2 NPT to 5/8 male hose barb ( I bought 45 degree from JEGS) 1=$14.99
-205 Viton o-ring (I bought from the o-ring store dot com) 10=$5
Ford/New Holland water filter #CF4900 (you can get these filters in various brands anywhere with/without SCA charge e.g. NAPA 4070 for non-SCA or 4071 with SCA charge) 1=$11 with SCA or 1=$6 without SCA
6' of 5/8 heater hose (any auto-parts store) $9.
I could have done this for around $220 if I had been more patient with my parts buying and gotten non-45 degree hose fittings locally, a non-SCA filter from someone like Fleetfilter.com, and re-used my old bolts.
I think this is it. Let me know if I left anything out. I will find out this weekend if you guys don't notice anything obvious.
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