Now THAT would be sweet!

 

i am with you here X2 .....

 

What makes you so sure? The 6.2 can do everything the V10 can do, so I dont believe the reason they didnt put it into the 450/550 and MH chassis is that the 6.2 couldnt handle it.

The 6.2 is a new engine built from the ground up so it's wise not to replace your entire super duty gas line up with it until its been out for a while and it has a solid reputation. But I really think its headed that way.

Well, at this time we dont know what uses Ford has in store for the 6.2 in the future. If they chose to use the 6.2 in heavier applications, I believe it can handle it. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I dont believe they will build a 7 liter gas engine.

 

Very true. Look at how long it took the 4.6L to completely replace the old 5.0L (or as I like to call it, the 302).
The V10's days are numbered.
The final nail in the V10's coffin is the fact that it is more expensive to produce than the 6.2L is. That will kill an engine quicker than anything else will.
Regards, Eric

 

405 TQ is not enough for a F550, even with 8 gears. You eventually need to pull your load in top gear. I just don't think it's enough torque for 30,000 plus pounds.

 

I give it 2 more years then a 6.2 3 valve will come out thats what ford always does!Ill wait until the 3 valve comes out and then ill buy it!

 

Not too long ago, back before Ford sold their heavier truck business to Mercedes, (who renamed the entire line "Sterling") Ford was putting the Lima/385 based 370ci V8 in F700s with only 4spd autos and everything seemed to work out OK. Before that they were putting FE based 361s in them and everything seemed to work out OK. I think this 379ci 6.2 will be able to handle the job just fine with it's higher power, higher torque, and greater number of gears in it's trans. I'm not saying that the 6.2 is all that great, I'm just saying that it can and will replace the V10.

You must have read my posts on that very topic in the "Ask the Engineer" thread! Glad to see that I'm not the only one who refuses to be played for a sucker.
I'm gonna wait for the 4 valve version! (If I don't buy a 4 valve from somebody else first.)
Regards, Eric

 

Actually I drove a 370 in a F700 with a 5 speed before I started towing. Around town was OK, but very doggy on the highway, and would only reach 67 MPH with your foot flat to the floor for an hour. No thanks. I'm glad those days are over. We'll see in a few years what will replace the 6.8. I seriously doubt it will be the 6.2, since they will need an engine capable of also replacing the V10 in the F650/750 series trucks as well. Time will tell......

 

yeah, I've driven lot's of 370 f700's

they are pathetic, 4 mpg, foot to the floor top speed of 65 mph. Ford won't do well if they try to meet the standards of 30 yrs ago.



Our one fire truck could barely reach 60 when it had 700 gallons of water.


I don't think a 6.2 would be a good replacement for a v10 in a med duty

I'm sure the engine could handle being revved out all the time, but how many operators would enjoy driving that?

 

Not me. Ford knows they must come up with a suitable replacement for the V10. Sales in the V10 F450/550 cab chassis are booming, as more people are steering away from the complicated diesels for Simpler, cheaper to maintain and operate gas engines. There is a reason Ford did not install the 6.2 across the board. The reason is that the V10 has more TQ, which a Medium duty truck needs......

 

Last fall I replaced my old 99' 6.8. I test drove some 2011 F250 6.2's with 3.73's (all they had) and a 4dr F350 6.8 with 4.10's.
The 6.8 had or felt like it had more power down low. It seemed to get up and go quicker and the transmission seemed better sorted. That 6.8 3v just felt stronger on the highway, even in the empty truck.
Since a few mpg isn't a big deal to me when I'm towing the car hauler I choose the V10.
Both truck were pretty much the same price. The 6.2 had a nice exhaust note though.

 

I am gonna chime in on this one. First off I have never owned a v10 so my opponion is based on my 2 day old 6.2 and three years behind the wheel of a cummins. No there is no replacement for displacement. But there has to be a trade off. All of that pulling power comes at a price. The 6.2 is here to fill a void that the 5.4 could not fill. The motor was under powered and was useless in a super duty with 3.73's.

The v10 is probably a pulling machine but not practicle formsomeone who uses their truck as a daily driver because of the fuel consumption.

I believe that the 6.2 was designed for someone who tows loads occasionally that require more than a half ton but less than a v10 or a diesel. Currently my 6.2 4x4 is showing 13-15 mpg with the 4.30 gears. The gas motors don't have a turbo so they need a little help on the other end. I have owned my fair share of vehicles with under gearing so the first thing i done was to order the lowest possible gears to overcomemthe lack of a turbo.

So far I notice a huge difference with the 4.30 gears compared to the 3.73 4x2 I test drove. The lower gears make all the difference in the world. It shifts with confidence without any gear hunting what so ever.

I will wait until i tow anything heavy but this set up seems to the best set up for the occasional tow truck that can affordably be driven on a daily basis.

 

My v10 with 3.73's gets 14.5 on the hwy empty and 11mpg aound town. Considering what that motor is capable of, i think thats pretty darn good.
If i wanted MPG, i would have bought a PRIUS.

I have two buddies with 5.4's that don get much better than that.........
Ill take the V10-

That said, there is fast comming a time when the v10 will be a thing of the past and we will all have to put our arms around this new 6.2L.

I for one dont think that Ford has tapped this well yet. I bet they have plans for this beast and it doesnt stop at 2 valves and 6.2L...

 

I'm still waiting to see what Ford comes up with to replace the commercial market V10's. Until then, I have my 09 F550 V10 and now a 2011 F550 V10. Those should last me a long time!

 

The 3v V10 is far from being phased out! For 2012, For will be putting te V10 into F-650/F-750 trucks and back it with the new 6-speed automatic, currently offered behind the Super Duty pickups/ F-350 CC's 6.2L V8. Plus F-53&F-59 stripped chassis get a V10. I've driven a few 6.2L V8 pickups, all with 3.73;1 gears. It would take 4.30:1s to make it keep up with my current regular cab V10 pickup. The 6.2L V8 is a good replacement for the 5.4L V8, but torque falls a bit short of my V10. I remembered being told by somebody, on this site, a 6.2L V8 would never be offered in a F-150. I learned long ago, NEVER say never. For some reason Ford chose to not offer the new 6.2L in the F-450/550 trucks. This tells me, Ford will offer a larger/ even more powerful engine for the entire Super Duty line....alongside the V10(in F-450/550s). that 385 horsepower rating for SD's 6.2L IS impressive, and it sure sounds GOOD when you twist the key, and it rumbles(literally...) to life, but in a 6,500 LB. pickup TORQUE is your friend. The V10 still has a torque advantage and at a lower rpm. Is a 5,500 rpm horsepower peak a better thing to advertise in a heavy vehicle? Something to think about. What does torque do........... yeah, I KNOW gearing & tire size......