View Poll Results: power steering high pressure hose replace
never replaced
24
64.86%
replaced once
10
27.03%
replaced twice
2
5.41%
replaced three times or more
1
2.70%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll
How many have blown the high pressure power steering line?
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#32
Regarding late model vehicles (although many would question whether 1996 models would qualify!), I can really only speak to the 1996 factory unit that I encountered on my truck. Although I would believe that others are similar.
There is no way I can envision taking the tubing out of the nut absent a failure of the snap ring. The clearance between the tubing and the nut (less than a couple of thousandth of an inch) makes it impossible to get to the snap ring, and the snap ring is toward the center of the nut. I was able to remove the snap ring on a 1980 fitting with a pick (In hopes that it would transfer into mine), but that snap ring was accessible and near the end of the nut. The 1980 snap ring was somewhat larger than the 1996 one, and it showed significant signs of wear on both sides, failure was not far away (I need to conquer posting pictures, they would speak volumes). My belief is that Ford places the snap ring in the nut, slides the tubing into the nut which momentarily flares the snap ring, then as soon as the tubing goes in far enough for the snap ring to seat in the grove in the tubing, it snaps into place, never to part again…until failure.
Up until the moment my hydraulic tube separated from the fitting on the pump, I had no signs that anything was amiss. No leaks, no warning that anything could be wrong until the hydraulic hose struck the fender well. What remained of the snap ring was adequate at holding the fitting together…until it wasn’t. I am glad it happened in my driveway instead of while my wife was negotiating an S curve at 65 mph. The loss of power steering, and for the newer Fords power brakes, could produce very negative consequences.
I would guess that it has not happened on a high percentage of vehicles, otherwise Ford would have been forced to undertake a safety recall. Perhaps it is more likely to fail when you are turning the wheels at slow speeds, I am not sure how the power steering pressures vary. My truck is presently still bone stock, inclusive of the original CPS, that flattened out down pipe, and 235 R 16 tires.
The 1996 Ford shop manual has a good diagram of the fitting/snap ring arrangement. My Ford dealer tells me that they have never heard of one failing (although they keep 200 of the hoses in stock for some odd reason… ). I was told that mine probably failed because I did not change the power steering fluid out annually…guilty as charged! But not a valid cause in my belief.
There is no way I can envision taking the tubing out of the nut absent a failure of the snap ring. The clearance between the tubing and the nut (less than a couple of thousandth of an inch) makes it impossible to get to the snap ring, and the snap ring is toward the center of the nut. I was able to remove the snap ring on a 1980 fitting with a pick (In hopes that it would transfer into mine), but that snap ring was accessible and near the end of the nut. The 1980 snap ring was somewhat larger than the 1996 one, and it showed significant signs of wear on both sides, failure was not far away (I need to conquer posting pictures, they would speak volumes). My belief is that Ford places the snap ring in the nut, slides the tubing into the nut which momentarily flares the snap ring, then as soon as the tubing goes in far enough for the snap ring to seat in the grove in the tubing, it snaps into place, never to part again…until failure.
Up until the moment my hydraulic tube separated from the fitting on the pump, I had no signs that anything was amiss. No leaks, no warning that anything could be wrong until the hydraulic hose struck the fender well. What remained of the snap ring was adequate at holding the fitting together…until it wasn’t. I am glad it happened in my driveway instead of while my wife was negotiating an S curve at 65 mph. The loss of power steering, and for the newer Fords power brakes, could produce very negative consequences.
I would guess that it has not happened on a high percentage of vehicles, otherwise Ford would have been forced to undertake a safety recall. Perhaps it is more likely to fail when you are turning the wheels at slow speeds, I am not sure how the power steering pressures vary. My truck is presently still bone stock, inclusive of the original CPS, that flattened out down pipe, and 235 R 16 tires.
The 1996 Ford shop manual has a good diagram of the fitting/snap ring arrangement. My Ford dealer tells me that they have never heard of one failing (although they keep 200 of the hoses in stock for some odd reason… ). I was told that mine probably failed because I did not change the power steering fluid out annually…guilty as charged! But not a valid cause in my belief.
#33
I guess they believe we're all just stupid, and will believe anything they tell us.
After all, they're Ford Factory Trained Technicians!
Can you use the word "loathe" in a sentence, little Johnny?
Pop
#36
I put two in my 1994 f150 in 14 years.. That count? My current PSD, has original.
Also the poll should list Salt area or not. My 01 is rust free clean as a button and stored in the winter free from salt. My Buddy has a 01.. I should get a comparison picture because he is about to put it to pasture.
Also the poll should list Salt area or not. My 01 is rust free clean as a button and stored in the winter free from salt. My Buddy has a 01.. I should get a comparison picture because he is about to put it to pasture.
#37
Power Steering High Pressure Hose Fitting Failure
My neighbor researched this subject on the Forums after replacing his PS hose. He did find it to be a recurring problem. The C-clip connection on the Ford hose is way flimsy. To the extent that I consider it a design defect. This will leave you stranded when it blows free of the pump - hopefully somewhere rather convenient - until a new high pressure hose can be installed and the system re-charged with tranny fluid.
'96 F-350 Powerstroke running 33's
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#40
mine blew over the weekend ('02 f350 w/ 157k and slightly larger 285/75 tires). Pressure line from hydroboost to pump separated from the nut in the pump - Absolutely no warning, steering and brakes were gone in a second along with a few quarts of mercon on the ground. Good thing I was doing 5mph in a parking lot and not 70 down the highway.
I would consider this a maintenance item to be replaced on an age/milage basis instead of waiting for it to fail - cheap insurance in my book.
Extra pressure hoses have been added to the "just-in case needed" parts bin in the truck.
I would consider this a maintenance item to be replaced on an age/milage basis instead of waiting for it to fail - cheap insurance in my book.
Extra pressure hoses have been added to the "just-in case needed" parts bin in the truck.
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