convert transfer case from electric to manual
#31
01-26-2012, 08:05 PM
#32
05-08-2012, 12:42 PM
The conversion is actually quite easy. Drop the old case, bolt up the new one. BUT, there are actually 2 271's and 2 273's out there. One for auto, one for a 6 spd, each with a choice of manual 4x4 or electronic. So, make sure you get the right one. As said earlier, your plate on the floor comes off and shifter comes through.
You can see the plate removed in this picture kind of.
To get the 4x4 lights to work, just cut the old signal wires from the main ESOF harness and attach the lt blue and lt blue/blk wires. If you have any questions, let me know!
You can see the plate removed in this picture kind of.
To get the 4x4 lights to work, just cut the old signal wires from the main ESOF harness and attach the lt blue and lt blue/blk wires. If you have any questions, let me know!
#34
03-28-2014, 05:27 PM
NV271F with ZF6 Speed transmission
The conversion is actually quite easy. Drop the old case, bolt up the new one. BUT, there are actually 2 271's and 2 273's out there. One for auto, one for a 6 spd, each with a choice of manual 4x4 or electronic. So, make sure you get the right one. As said earlier, your plate on the floor comes off and shifter comes through.
You can see the plate removed in this picture kind of.
To get the 4x4 lights to work, just cut the old signal wires from the main ESOF harness and attach the lt blue and lt blue/blk wires. If you have any questions, let me know!
You can see the plate removed in this picture kind of.
To get the 4x4 lights to work, just cut the old signal wires from the main ESOF harness and attach the lt blue and lt blue/blk wires. If you have any questions, let me know!
#35
03-28-2014, 06:32 PM
#36
03-31-2014, 08:32 PM
#37
05-11-2015, 09:04 PM
08 f450 esof conversion
08 f450 automatic trans, installed a manual nv 271 transfer case and bought all parts from ford to complete install. im having problem getting lights on dash to work properly. i want to use the two pin switch on transfer case to make lights function is this possible. any help out there.
#38
07-24-2015, 10:50 PM
baw6.0
Can you add more details about your truck and conversion? I have a 2013 with esof that I would like to retrofit with manual. It also has electronic rear locker. This system is also tied with the stability control and traction control. Will the harness for the manual t case plug into the vehicle?
Can you add more details about your truck and conversion? I have a 2013 with esof that I would like to retrofit with manual. It also has electronic rear locker. This system is also tied with the stability control and traction control. Will the harness for the manual t case plug into the vehicle?
#39
07-26-2015, 09:31 AM
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I'm curious why you would want manual. I ordered my 2015 F350 new and I sat on the fence on this one for quite a while. The reason I almost went with the manual is I figured anything that is not manual has the potential to not work. I ended up going with the electric shifting transfer case. I'm just wondering what other peoples reasoning is for wanting it to be manual. Has there been a problem getting it to shift into 4WD?? Thank you.
Dave
Dave
#40
07-27-2015, 12:15 AM
Yes I have problems with the esof shifting into and out of 4wd. I hope tonight I have it fixed though. I replaced the electric shift encoder motor and manually cycled the transfer case shift shaft with a 9/16 open end many times while it was off. Initially it was very difficult, but then became much easier and snapped into the detents as one would expect. Most people have problems with the auto vacuum hubs. Also if the shift motor is not working, many times one or both relays and inop which supply power in opposite polarity to the shift motor to move in one direction or the other.
#41
07-27-2015, 09:05 AM
Historically speaking, the auto-locking hubs in the '99 through '04 trucks was very problematic. I myself had them fail within the first 2-3 years of owning the truck, I believe.
I went with Warn manual hubs, kept the ESOF electric-shift on the transfer case, and that part is still working great.
From 2005 and up, Ford went with a different system for the locking hubs, I believe the only real difference was the hubs themselves, which I think are actually made by Warn. There seem to be a LOT less problems with them, except for the usual vacuum hose breaking, or the vacuum solenoid failing.
But the hubs themselves are 1000% better now, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a truck with them off the dealer's lot. I'd probably still prefer full manual if I was to order a truck these days though
I went with Warn manual hubs, kept the ESOF electric-shift on the transfer case, and that part is still working great.
From 2005 and up, Ford went with a different system for the locking hubs, I believe the only real difference was the hubs themselves, which I think are actually made by Warn. There seem to be a LOT less problems with them, except for the usual vacuum hose breaking, or the vacuum solenoid failing.
But the hubs themselves are 1000% better now, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a truck with them off the dealer's lot. I'd probably still prefer full manual if I was to order a truck these days though
#42
07-29-2015, 02:24 PM
Hotshot
I had a 2012 with manual hubs / manual shifter. I liked the manual shifter - it felt like you were actually doing something, it had neutral, and with the hubs pre-locked you could shift in and out of 4x4 even quicker than the electric can.
BUT...the biggest problem is the inconvenience of the manual hubs. Where I live, and where I drive, there are many opportunities to use both 2 and 4WD. Sure, leave the hubs locked in year round. Except the axle u-joints bind in very tight turns in 2WD. And you definitely get at least 1mpg less with them locked in, but in 2WD. And you add wear and tear that isn't necessary. Now add in the fact that it can be a pain to get Low Range to engage via the dog leg lever...you need to be rolling, but barely. This can be hard to do on the trail, sometimes. And lastly, one thing that has historically broken on manual-shift 4x4 on Fords is the short steel connecting rod between the lever and the transfer case, with rubber bushings at each end. Typically they never see grease, but plenty of mud and salt. And ususally they only get used in the winter. No a big deal to replace, but this won't fail on an electric shift, because it doesn't exist.
My 2015 is electric. What I don't like is the slowness to engage. Its not bad, but it is slower. I do, however, love the automatic engage and disengage of the hubs. Time will tell if the vacuum system for the hubs fails, but I doubt the electric shifter motor will.
BUT...the biggest problem is the inconvenience of the manual hubs. Where I live, and where I drive, there are many opportunities to use both 2 and 4WD. Sure, leave the hubs locked in year round. Except the axle u-joints bind in very tight turns in 2WD. And you definitely get at least 1mpg less with them locked in, but in 2WD. And you add wear and tear that isn't necessary. Now add in the fact that it can be a pain to get Low Range to engage via the dog leg lever...you need to be rolling, but barely. This can be hard to do on the trail, sometimes. And lastly, one thing that has historically broken on manual-shift 4x4 on Fords is the short steel connecting rod between the lever and the transfer case, with rubber bushings at each end. Typically they never see grease, but plenty of mud and salt. And ususally they only get used in the winter. No a big deal to replace, but this won't fail on an electric shift, because it doesn't exist.
My 2015 is electric. What I don't like is the slowness to engage. Its not bad, but it is slower. I do, however, love the automatic engage and disengage of the hubs. Time will tell if the vacuum system for the hubs fails, but I doubt the electric shifter motor will.
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