93 5.8 mild build parts system.
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93 5.8 mild build parts system.
I finally decided to just do a mild build to the non roller 93 5.8 bronco block I have to swap in place of the 5.0.
I have a several items here that I think might work well with one another, if you all don't mind and see if they will flow together nicely.
I want aluminum heads and roller rockers with roller cam, from what I gather a certain cam is what is recommended here.
My question is, since I have a non roller cam and use the listed below cam, what roller lifters do I need for it?
Heads.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/edl-60329
Camshaft.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-35-512-8
Retrofit kit.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-31-1000
Roller Rockers.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-1442-16
I don't know the factory lifter bore size and it looks like there are two different sizes according to Summit.
And also, if I run the factory style roller lifters, with the stock 5.8 push rods still work?
I have a several items here that I think might work well with one another, if you all don't mind and see if they will flow together nicely.
I want aluminum heads and roller rockers with roller cam, from what I gather a certain cam is what is recommended here.
My question is, since I have a non roller cam and use the listed below cam, what roller lifters do I need for it?
Heads.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/edl-60329
Camshaft.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-35-512-8
Retrofit kit.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-31-1000
Roller Rockers.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-1442-16
I don't know the factory lifter bore size and it looks like there are two different sizes according to Summit.
And also, if I run the factory style roller lifters, with the stock 5.8 push rods still work?
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If that's the case, will these work with the cam?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-21400006
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-21400006
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Link bar would be the correct approach.
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If that's the case, will these work with the cam?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-21400006
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-21400006
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No, a non roller block had shorter lifter bore bosses. You may be thinking of the 302 blocks, many of which had taller lifter bores but without the spider hold down bolts drilled and tapped. 351w was different, block change didn't occur until '94 and they then came with roller lifters.
Link bar would be the correct approach.
Link bar would be the correct approach.
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The rockers you listed are not true roller rockers, just roller tip. The main pivot would be a roller bearing on a normal full roller rocker.
Be aware the heads are sold individually. Maybe you know that already, but figured I'd mention it.
What's your intake and exhaust plan? Fueling?
Be aware the heads are sold individually. Maybe you know that already, but figured I'd mention it.
What's your intake and exhaust plan? Fueling?
Yes i am aware, I wanted trick flow, but cant find any in a 1.90 intake valve, there all 2.02.
I'm not sure what pistons I will need to clear the twisted wedge style heads, know of any?
Currently have the edlebrock truck intake and the ford motorsports maf conversion harness with a A9P ECM and plan on buying the bbk 61mm twin tb.
As for the exhaust, I already have hooker LT headers(302 I will make a port for the egr for the 5.8) to 2.5 dual into a 3" single to a flowmaster muffler.
The fuel system has two newish pumps(two tank setup) and newish 19# 4 hole injectors on the 5.0 that I will swap, and I will use the factory 5.8 fuel rails.
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Yes that cam will work with those link bar lifters. To be honest that's probably a good way to do it, as many of the roller 351W blocks crack above the cam bearing journals, originating from the spider hold down holes. Mine did, and it's the running experiment to see if the cracks ultimately matter or not for a mild build. 38k miles and counting though, so I think it's OK. It was a big stroker engine builder than noticed how common this was. Interesting stuff.
The Crane 1.7 ratio rockers clear stock valve covers, but those are a different ratio than what you've selected. I'm told Scorpion pedestal mounts clear as well, and they are available in both 1.6 & 1.7 ratios.
I'm not sure on pistons, that's beyond my knowledge level. I ran stockers, sitting just above the deck.
You'll likely end up exceeding what 19lb/hr injectors can deliver and need some larger injectors with tuning. The MAF swap should help there. Something like Moates Quarterhorse is what comes to mind for tuning. Admittedly, this is into territory where I'm just regurgitating what I've read: I intentionally bottled necked my build at the intake to stay within stock tune & 19lb/hr injectors capability (probably ought to tune anyway though). So make sure you do your homework. Someone like Paul (Conanski) on here is much more knowledgeable in this area.
The Crane 1.7 ratio rockers clear stock valve covers, but those are a different ratio than what you've selected. I'm told Scorpion pedestal mounts clear as well, and they are available in both 1.6 & 1.7 ratios.
I'm not sure on pistons, that's beyond my knowledge level. I ran stockers, sitting just above the deck.
You'll likely end up exceeding what 19lb/hr injectors can deliver and need some larger injectors with tuning. The MAF swap should help there. Something like Moates Quarterhorse is what comes to mind for tuning. Admittedly, this is into territory where I'm just regurgitating what I've read: I intentionally bottled necked my build at the intake to stay within stock tune & 19lb/hr injectors capability (probably ought to tune anyway though). So make sure you do your homework. Someone like Paul (Conanski) on here is much more knowledgeable in this area.
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I will go with these roller rockers.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g6940b
And use these valve covers, the edlebrock intake sits higher than the factory intake.
https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Bla...uctinfo/30783/
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g6940b
And use these valve covers, the edlebrock intake sits higher than the factory intake.
https://shop.broncograveyard.com/Bla...uctinfo/30783/
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ok, then as @fordman67 mentioned, you will need those link bar lifters. I believe you will need the tall valve covers with those rocker arms.