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Sorting out 65' F100 FWD

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Old 12-18-2018, 01:51 PM
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Sorting out 65' F100 FWD

Hi, I'm in the process of sorting a 65' F100 4x4.. I got he truck as a rolling basket case. The frame's been sandblasted and painted, new leaf springs installed, gas tank moved to the rear and a power steering box from a 78' F100 4x4 installed onto a boxed frame mount as well. It also came with a Clifford heated intake and Holley carb which I plan on using the newer 2 piece FI exhaust manifolds with. I have been slowly getting parts together to finish it and the more parts I get the more questions I have.

As I posted a while back the engine had gotten water in to #3 cylinder and locked the engine, so I've tracked down a good running IL6 300 from an 85' F150 4x4 and this spring I plan on doing the transplant.

Question 1- Does anyone know if I can use the P/S pump from the 86' F100 to use with the 79' power steering gear? I'm hoping it will clear the steering box, looks like it will

Question 2- What's wrong with the t-98 4 spd trans? It will not go into gear. The shifter goes side to side but as hard as I push I can't get any gears. I know the previous owner went through the trouble of installing a new clutch kit and also painted the trans case so I'm assuming that the trans shouldn't be junk. I don't think any water could have entered it some how, but maybe through the shifter link?

Question- 3 The cab on this 65' has been replaced with a 66' 2wd cab in order to use the holes in the firewall for the power steering conversion and steering column. The 66' has that body mounts have been altered to fit on the 65' frame. Since I would love to shorten the column a bit, is there any reason that I can't move the column support bracket that's welded on to the column up a couple of inches and then adjust the column clamp where it goes through the firewall to allow for the column being adjusted towards the steering gear side? There's plenty of room for the column to go on the engine side of the firewall since I plan on using a DD style linkage to the steering box. I need the belly room and really would like to keep the original column, although an after market column isn't out of the question, with two kids in braces I need to save as much coin as possible.

Anyway, thanks for reading and for any insights.

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Here's a link to a possibility on the transmission and shifting issues. I hope it is the roll pin as that is not an expensive thing to fix at all.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-question.html

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Originally Posted by wrongwaypeachfuzz
Hi, I'm in the process of sorting a '65 F100 4x4. I got the truck as a rolling basket case.

Question 1- Does anyone know if I can use the P/S pump from the '86 F100 to use with the '79 power steering gear? I'm hoping it will clear the steering box, looks like it will.
Ford C-II P/S pump is the same 1978/90's.

Question 2- What's wrong with the T-98 4 spd trans? It will not go into gear.
No T-98's after 1964.

1965/72 F100/250 4WD's have the New Process 435 (NP435) 4 speed, reverse is down, towards the seat.

NP435's have 2 nylon inserts on the 1st/2nd & 3rd/4th shift forks. If they are cracked, broken or missing, it makes it very difficult to shift. 1st/2nd different inserts than 3rd/4th.

The NP435 'spring loaded' shift lever retainer cap has two notches, is retained to the shift tower with two pins.

To remove this cap, it must be pressed down by hand, and held down while turning counterclockwise to remove it.

People unaware use pliers or channel locks to remove it, which tears out one or both of the notches. Not pleasant!
 
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I cut a short section of 1.5" pipe and then open up my vice grips wide enough to grab the pipe and then slide that down the gear shift lever after removing the **** and it gives me the ability to press down and turn much easier.



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Originally Posted by TA455HO
Here's a link to a possibility on the transmission and shifting issues. I hope it is the roll pin as that is not an expensive thing to fix at all.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-question.html

Chad

Thanks, I'll check it out.
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No T-98's after 1964.

1965/72 F100/250 4WD's have the New Process 435 (NP435) 4 speed, reverse is down, towards the seat.

NP435's have 2 nylon inserts on the 1st/2nd & 3rd/4th shift forks. If they are cracked, broken or missing, it makes it very difficult to shift. 1st/2nd different inserts than 3rd/4th.

The NP435 'spring loaded' shift lever retainer cap has two notches, is retained to the shift tower with two pins.

To remove this cap, it must be pressed down by hand, and held down while turning counterclockwise to remove it.

People unaware use pliers or channel locks to remove it, which tears out one or both of the notches. Not pleasant!
thanks for the info. I'm a little confused because the trans says T-98 on the drivers side casting. Did they change the innards around and use the same case?

Originally Posted by TA455HO
I cut a short section of 1.5" pipe and then open up my vice grips wide enough to grab the pipe and then slide that down the gear shift lever after removing the **** and it gives me the ability to press down and turn much easier.



Chad
Thanks, I'll try that out!

 
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Originally Posted by wrongwaypeachfuzz
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thanks for the info. I'm a little confused because the trans says T-98 on the drivers side casting. Did they change the innards around and use the same case?
If the trans has T-98 marked on it, it's a Warner T-18 4 speed originally installed in a F100/250 2WD

1965/72: Reverse is up .. towards the dash.

Warner T-18 & NP 435 introduced in 1965, last year for the Warner T-98 was 1964. T-98 will not bolt to a 240/300 bellhousing.

240 & 300 I-6 introduced in 1965, intake/exhaust manifolds located on the right (passenger) side.

223 & 262 I-6 used 1961/64, intake/exhaust manifolds located on the left (drivers) side.
 
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:01 AM
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Thanks Number Dummy. I might try and pop it off later after work.
 
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Old 12-23-2018, 05:06 PM
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Think I found the problem.. hoping a little Marvel Mystery Oil will take care of it!




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Old 12-23-2018, 05:12 PM
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That's all folks!
Time for a new one. Should be easy to find they made a ton of them.
 
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Old 12-24-2018, 12:23 PM
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Ok so I'm moving onto finding a transmission for this beast and I found this T-18 locally off Craigslist from a 78' F150. It seems the output shaft is longer than what I have. Can anyone tell me if I can fit a shorter one without dis-assembling the trans?

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