Trade up from my 6.4 to a 6.7?
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Trade up from my 6.4 to a 6.7?
I'm looking for a little knowledgeable guidance here. I currently own a 2008 F250 Lariat 4wd that is paid off. It has 102k miles on the clock with the DPF deleted, a MiniMax tuner, and a Banks cold air intake installed. I've had the truck for almost 5 years with no drivetrain problems. I typically drive ~10k miles a year; half of which is pulling a 32' fifth wheel camper. With just a few complaints, I love my truck!
A good friend has ordered a 2019 Ranger with a December delivery date. He currently drives a stock 2016 F250 Lariat 4wd with ~32k on the clock. He's agreed to sell me his truck for whatever the Ford dealer will offer him on trade. Other than the model year and what I've described about my current truck, our trucks are essentially the same. I won't know what the trade offer will be but expect it to be somewhere in the $40 - $45K range. I have no idea what my current truck will bring but think $16 - $18K is reasonable. Understanding there are a number of variables, is it worth the money to make a trade? Is the reliability of the 6.7 drivetrain exponentially better than the 6.4 drivetrain? I'm a debt averse guy and really like not having monthly payments but am also a realist about the need to upgrade vehicles at some point. Is this my point to upgrade?
Thanks in advance for your responses!
A good friend has ordered a 2019 Ranger with a December delivery date. He currently drives a stock 2016 F250 Lariat 4wd with ~32k on the clock. He's agreed to sell me his truck for whatever the Ford dealer will offer him on trade. Other than the model year and what I've described about my current truck, our trucks are essentially the same. I won't know what the trade offer will be but expect it to be somewhere in the $40 - $45K range. I have no idea what my current truck will bring but think $16 - $18K is reasonable. Understanding there are a number of variables, is it worth the money to make a trade? Is the reliability of the 6.7 drivetrain exponentially better than the 6.4 drivetrain? I'm a debt averse guy and really like not having monthly payments but am also a realist about the need to upgrade vehicles at some point. Is this my point to upgrade?
Thanks in advance for your responses!
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I had a 2008 with the 6.4. I liked my truck and it gave me great service. I traded up to a 2013 DRW with the 6.7. I still miss the 6.4 but the 6.7 has been super reliable.
Overall the seat of pants will tell you the 6.4 is quicker but the 6.7 has better overall pulling power. Still need to watch the radiator itself but not much else.
I would upgrade again if I had to do it all over.
Overall the seat of pants will tell you the 6.4 is quicker but the 6.7 has better overall pulling power. Still need to watch the radiator itself but not much else.
I would upgrade again if I had to do it all over.
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I say got for it. Not often you know the history of the vehicle you will buy. You are getting a truck 8 years newer and worlds apart in tech and drive train. By 2016 all issues have been worked out in drive train. I had a 2008, and can tell you they are not comparable. Just my two cents, but it is your money and as you say you will now have a payment.
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I would go for it. Had a 2008 6.4 deleted. Loved the truck but at 102k, it started to have issues. Oil cooling issues, front end issues,and other things. It was a pulling beast, quicker to spool up, IMO, ran cooler overall and actually pulled over Colorado passes a little easier. I now have a 15 and love it and would trade up again if I had to do it all over again.
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Make the switch. The 2015 and later 6.7s are rock-solid. While you have been lucky with your 6.4, its my understanding that they can often require more pricey repairs than a 6.0. Like a 6.0, the 6.4 also runs right on the ragged edge. The 6.7 has gobs of power and torque, and it takes a lot to ‘make it sweat’.
Also, a 2016 Super Duty has a lot of improvements over a 2008 - beyond the motor.
Also, a 2016 Super Duty has a lot of improvements over a 2008 - beyond the motor.
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Since you know the history of the truck, I think this is a great opportunity to get into a 6.7L plus it's a 2016 model which is a positive. I completely understand your thoughts on debt. I had considered ordering or buying a 2016 model so I could skip the '17+ generation but decided to keep my '11. If you can work out the finances, my vote is go for it.
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If you get the 6.7L you will never look back and be very happy you did it. I went from a 2005 6.0 to a 2017 6.7. The newer trucks are amazing. I pull a 4 place horse trailer and it pulls so much better than the 6.0. It is amazing what it can do. I will never look back and say I shouldn't have bought this new truck. I don't know how ford can out do this engine.
P.S. Don't test drive one because you will be hooked, like all the way! Hook line and sinker! LOL LOL LOL
P.S. Don't test drive one because you will be hooked, like all the way! Hook line and sinker! LOL LOL LOL
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Thank you all for the honest feedback. Truth is, I already knew the answer but I was looking for some independent confirmation to help me settle the idea of taking on new debt. By current cultural standards, I can easily justify a truck payment and can even pay for the entire thing once I sell my current truck (although the thought of coughing up that much cash gives me the *******).
I bought the 6.4 from my parents in 2014 who had bought it new (and the 5th wheel camper with it) in 2009. Age related issues required them to sell both because they just couldn't keep up with the travelling lifestyle any longer. As you can imagine, they gave my wife and I a sweetheart deal for both (thanks again mom & dad!) and we've enjoyed camping trips from Arizona to North Carolina and from Minnesota to Florida. The truck / trailer combination has worked out great with the exception of a failed upper radiator hose fitting while camping outside of Kansas City.
Before purchasing this rig, I knew nothing of diesel vehicles generally and even less of the 6.4 specifically. Since then, I've educated myself on the drivetrain and learned the whole sad story that began with the Navistar 6.0 engine. Early after the original purchase, dad had a friend convince him to delete the DPF, install the cold air intake, and use the MiniMax tuner to help improve performance. I'm not sure he understood why doing so was a good idea but after reading 4+ years of posts in this forum, I'm glad he did. Again, the truck has been super reliable (minus the radiator hose incident) and has given me no reason to sell it except for all the horror stories out there.
I bought the 6.4 from my parents in 2014 who had bought it new (and the 5th wheel camper with it) in 2009. Age related issues required them to sell both because they just couldn't keep up with the travelling lifestyle any longer. As you can imagine, they gave my wife and I a sweetheart deal for both (thanks again mom & dad!) and we've enjoyed camping trips from Arizona to North Carolina and from Minnesota to Florida. The truck / trailer combination has worked out great with the exception of a failed upper radiator hose fitting while camping outside of Kansas City.
Before purchasing this rig, I knew nothing of diesel vehicles generally and even less of the 6.4 specifically. Since then, I've educated myself on the drivetrain and learned the whole sad story that began with the Navistar 6.0 engine. Early after the original purchase, dad had a friend convince him to delete the DPF, install the cold air intake, and use the MiniMax tuner to help improve performance. I'm not sure he understood why doing so was a good idea but after reading 4+ years of posts in this forum, I'm glad he did. Again, the truck has been super reliable (minus the radiator hose incident) and has given me no reason to sell it except for all the horror stories out there.
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You'll be getting a truck 8 yrs newer, 70K less miles, 6.7 SDTD (beast) and you know the actual history of the vehicle. This truck will be still running strong way after your '08 F250 is retired.
Work out the finances and unless you absolutely, positively can't do it then JUST DO IT and learn to live with that permanent smile on your face.
Work out the finances and unless you absolutely, positively can't do it then JUST DO IT and learn to live with that permanent smile on your face.
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