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Navigator no power, nothing happening at all year 2004

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Old 08-04-2018, 03:25 PM
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Navigator no power, nothing happening at all year 2004

I have a lincoln navigator 2004, on some occasions, when i try to start it nothing works, no interior lights, no start no crank , nothing. Seems like all dead. But then suddenly after an hour or two, it starts working like nothing happened. Later on when i m driving it dies randomly and turns back on when i start it right away again, anybody with this problem? Please help, i am suspecting it to be a ground problem or an ECU problem
 
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Old 08-04-2018, 04:35 PM
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Bad battery or battery cable connections.
 
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Old 08-04-2018, 06:26 PM
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Battery is new

i replaced battery six months ago, also i replaced alternator 10 days ago. This problem was rare before my alternator went bad. After getting a brand new alternator, it started happening almost everyday.
 
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:20 PM
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Did you disconnect the battery when changing the alternator?
 
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Yes i was right there , when my mechanic replacedd it. He disconnected the battery
 
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In that case I would start following the wiring harness and look for a place where it might have worn through.
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:27 AM
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Sure, i will go through the wiring harness today, i will see if there is any crack or something, i will surely let you know if i find one. And also, the day i posted this thread, absolutely no power after that. Navigator has a sensor, which brings the air suspension down, when the truck is not in use, the air in the air bags is still full, and truck is still standing high, which makes me think that the air suspension is also not getting power from the battery or whatever source it is related to. Thanks for all your help, once i check the wiring i ll text you back.
 
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I would also make sure the negative/ground cable and connections are good. Very easy to overlook the return side of the equation.
 
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As @alloro mentioned, i have made sure every wiring, i notice 4 ground connections, all seem nice and strong. Today i checked the battery, unplugged it and try it using my honda civic positive and negative, everything was working normal. Honda Civic started right up. So battery issue is eliminated. Wiring is strong. The only problem i am suspecting right now is dead pcm or bad positive connection.

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A dead PCM, computer, would not prevent the engine from turning over when cycling from Off to Start.Your problem is wiring related.
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:55 AM
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Thanks alot @rla2005, this means that i am not spending thousand dollars on a new PCM. Do you hav eany idea, where should i start looking for wiring?
 
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Originally Posted by rla2005
A dead PCM, computer, would not prevent the engine from turning over when cycling from Off to Start.Your problem is wiring related.
also, my navigator wont start now, its been like this since i started this thread. No luck at all. Its complete dead. I dont know what to do, its a tough situation. I cant even concentrate on work lol
 
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A small correction: The computer can prevent the engine from cranking over as part of the anti-theft systems. That will not prevent everything else from working such as interior lights, door chimes, etc. If you have no power at all you have a basic wiring problem. Power out of the battery and the return circuits via the ground cable.
 
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good news bad news

So finally, i towed my truck to my mechanic. Paid 80 bucks for towing.

What i got in return:

Good news : Mechanic concluded the negative terminal for the battery was lose, so mechanic tightened it up, (easy fix) and got it running again. The moment he did that, bang! Power is back AGAIN.

Bad news : i left that terminal loose, while i was working on the battery, before that it was strongly tightened up. And still my truck was playing out no power game. But once it reached mechanic, nothing at all. He touched nothing just the positive terminal and the negative. He figured out negative was lose. But the bad news is i am still not sure if this was my problem, cause it was tight before and truck was still giving me problems.

I wasted 80$ to get it towed anyway though.

Please help
 
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If the terminals keep loosening up then perhaps the attaching hardware is stripped.Verify the battery terminals and the attachment clamps are clean.
 


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