Heater blows hot air even when off
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Heater blows hot air even when off
On my 1970 F-250 custom, I can feel hot air coming out of the bottom of the heater when both levers are in the “off” and “cool” positions. 1) The hot air coming out is proportional to the speed of the truck—strongest air flow when going 50mph plus. 2) It is warmer than the air flowing out of the left and right underdash vents, 3) when I move the one lever to defrost, the hot air stops flowing. Ideas?
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My use to do all the above also.
1.I replaced the water flow valve an adjusted the cables an it still had warm air coming into the heater box vent.
2. Aw all the flapper valves side foam had dry rotted to stop the air flowing around the sides.
3. I have pissed away money on the rebuilt heater box kits the don't really stop the air flow around the sides.
4. I ended up gluing the kits together to stop the side flow of air.
5. Back in the 70's I used some felt pad my wife had an it works good for yrs.
Then one day noticed, I had warm air flowing in and all the slider levers were closed that's when, I dug into it.
After replacing the heater valve ab adjusting the cable in the engine bay was when I found that the heater box rear flapper lever switch cable was not holding the cable
an broken. I hit pick n pull got another heater box from a 70 pickup. This was when, ordered a heater box kit an found none were worth a dam.
I should have left the foam alone that was in the replacement box. That when I order the H box kits as each one from DC, NPD,MAC, Were all to narrow to for the flapper lever seals. I have found some packing foam ideal but all to late as, I put my heater box back together.
Once you get your heater box apart you'll see what, I am talking about the side flappers need the sides sealed also you'll have to make your own.
Good luck.
Orich
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1.I replaced the water flow valve an adjusted the cables an it still had warm air coming into the heater box vent.
2. Aw all the flapper valves side foam had dry rotted to stop the air flowing around the sides.
3. I have pissed away money on the rebuilt heater box kits the don't really stop the air flow around the sides.
4. I ended up gluing the kits together to stop the side flow of air.
5. Back in the 70's I used some felt pad my wife had an it works good for yrs.
Then one day noticed, I had warm air flowing in and all the slider levers were closed that's when, I dug into it.
After replacing the heater valve ab adjusting the cable in the engine bay was when I found that the heater box rear flapper lever switch cable was not holding the cable
an broken. I hit pick n pull got another heater box from a 70 pickup. This was when, ordered a heater box kit an found none were worth a dam.
I should have left the foam alone that was in the replacement box. That when I order the H box kits as each one from DC, NPD,MAC, Were all to narrow to for the flapper lever seals. I have found some packing foam ideal but all to late as, I put my heater box back together.
Once you get your heater box apart you'll see what, I am talking about the side flappers need the sides sealed also you'll have to make your own.
Good luck.
Orich
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I have a 3 hour trip in 90 degree weather tomorrow towing the boat. I am taking two measures for a comfortable, and hopefully trouble-free trip:
1. Taking the Interstate all the way to keep my airspeed up (as in the speed of air flowing through my radiator, and transcooler), and to minimize starts and stops.
2. Just got the blue painters tape out and taped closed the heater box outlets. I couldn't find my duct tape. But, the blue should work fine short term. I like the idea of hooking the lines together for the summer time.
1. Taking the Interstate all the way to keep my airspeed up (as in the speed of air flowing through my radiator, and transcooler), and to minimize starts and stops.
2. Just got the blue painters tape out and taped closed the heater box outlets. I couldn't find my duct tape. But, the blue should work fine short term. I like the idea of hooking the lines together for the summer time.
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Thanks Jeffafa, and all others for your great input! I’m still tinkering around with sealing the leaks. This issue of a little bit of warm air coming out wouldn’t be such a big deal if I had AC during these hot Central Valley (CA) summers. Is the general consensus that the best AC for these ‘67-‘72 trucks is the aftermarket one from Vintage Air?
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Mine does the same thing. Gets hotter than the blazes in the cab on hot days. I put a new valve on, but, it still won't completely stop the water flow apparently. I am going to check and see if maybe it isn't closing all the way. Other than that, not sure how to cool it down.
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Thanks Jeffafa, and all others for your great input! I’m still tinkering around with sealing the leaks. This issue of a little bit of warm air coming out wouldn’t be such a big deal if I had AC during these hot Central Valley (CA) summers. Is the general consensus that the best AC for these ‘67-‘72 trucks is the aftermarket one from Vintage Air?
I also have the same issue, and had to bypass the heater core to get the A/C to actually cool anything. But who needs a heater anyhow?
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Has any one checked out http://www.detroitmuscletechnologies.com/ DMT for a heater gasket kit?
I have not for any Ford stuff but have used them for my 70 AMC Javelin heater box restore.
If they don't have a kit for your truck you can talk to them and see what it takes to make one.
May need to send them a HVAC box so they can see what is in order to re-seal one.
I know that's what they did of the AMC guys and once it is made they then have the pattern for others.
Dave ----
I have not for any Ford stuff but have used them for my 70 AMC Javelin heater box restore.
If they don't have a kit for your truck you can talk to them and see what it takes to make one.
May need to send them a HVAC box so they can see what is in order to re-seal one.
I know that's what they did of the AMC guys and once it is made they then have the pattern for others.
Dave ----
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On my 1970 F-250 custom, I can feel hot air coming out of the bottom of the heater when both levers are in the “off” and “cool” positions. 1) The hot air coming out is proportional to the speed of the truck—strongest air flow when going 50mph plus. 2) It is warmer than the air flowing out of the left and right underdash vents, 3) when I move the one lever to defrost, the hot air stops flowing. Ideas?
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