1988 F350 Cummins Swap
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1988 F350 Cummins Swap
Hello all,
I have a stock (no body or suspension lift) 1988 4 door flatbed F350 4x4 460 with a ZF5.
I will be swapping in an intercooled first gen 12v VE pump Cummins out of Dodge PU. I am looking for reliability, improved MPG and better towing. Primarily going to use it to carry a cab-over camper for the family.
I would like to post my progress here and ask questions.
One of the first questions I have is about the AC. Mine works great now and I would like to keep it that way. Is there anyway to get around opening up the system? Was anyone able to leave it hooked up and just push it to the side? I am under the impression it will be much easier to just use the 12v compressor and that will involve new lines and or fittings--I am okay with easier--thoughts?
Also, my truck is currently a gasser so I need to do something about the fuel tanks and lines. I am planning on running new lines and filter setup. Is it possible to use the existing fuel tanks as long as all the gas is removed? I heard someone say no if they are galvanized because the diesel will react to it--I have no idea if that is true. Either way, I would like to just do a single large tank--larger than the current stock rear tank. Any thoughts?
Am I going to be okay with the stock exhaust manifold from the 12v? Conversion sites want to sell me an expensive new manifold. Do I need/want it?
More questions and some photos to come. Thanks in advance for the advice!
I have a stock (no body or suspension lift) 1988 4 door flatbed F350 4x4 460 with a ZF5.
I will be swapping in an intercooled first gen 12v VE pump Cummins out of Dodge PU. I am looking for reliability, improved MPG and better towing. Primarily going to use it to carry a cab-over camper for the family.
I would like to post my progress here and ask questions.
One of the first questions I have is about the AC. Mine works great now and I would like to keep it that way. Is there anyway to get around opening up the system? Was anyone able to leave it hooked up and just push it to the side? I am under the impression it will be much easier to just use the 12v compressor and that will involve new lines and or fittings--I am okay with easier--thoughts?
Also, my truck is currently a gasser so I need to do something about the fuel tanks and lines. I am planning on running new lines and filter setup. Is it possible to use the existing fuel tanks as long as all the gas is removed? I heard someone say no if they are galvanized because the diesel will react to it--I have no idea if that is true. Either way, I would like to just do a single large tank--larger than the current stock rear tank. Any thoughts?
Am I going to be okay with the stock exhaust manifold from the 12v? Conversion sites want to sell me an expensive new manifold. Do I need/want it?
More questions and some photos to come. Thanks in advance for the advice!
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You can use your ford a.c. compressor, you just have to make a high mount for it. It will use the 3 bolt holes on the Cummins intake shelf , you may have a picking eye there now but just remove it.
the factory exhaust manifold will work with your a.c. box. It is best to flip it upside down for more clearance. If your engine is nonintercooled and you don't want to change the turbo to intake piece then leave the manifold in the stock orientation and heat shield the box so you don't melt the vaccumm box on it.
the engine mounts are easy to make and I have an extra set and can get you measurements if you need.
what tranny are you going to run
the factory exhaust manifold will work with your a.c. box. It is best to flip it upside down for more clearance. If your engine is nonintercooled and you don't want to change the turbo to intake piece then leave the manifold in the stock orientation and heat shield the box so you don't melt the vaccumm box on it.
the engine mounts are easy to make and I have an extra set and can get you measurements if you need.
what tranny are you going to run
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the 460 is a great engine but it's no match for the fuel economy or on road performance of the Cummins. The payback time vs. the investment? That's a different matter... I'd do it in a heartbeat but I won't live long enough to finish the projects I have now....
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You can use your ford a.c. compressor, you just have to make a high mount for it. It will use the 3 bolt holes on the Cummins intake shelf , you may have a picking eye there now but just remove it.
the factory exhaust manifold will work with your a.c. box. It is best to flip it upside down for more clearance. If your engine is nonintercooled and you don't want to change the turbo to intake piece then leave the manifold in the stock orientation and heat shield the box so you don't melt the vaccumm box on it.
the engine mounts are easy to make and I have an extra set and can get you measurements if you need.
what tranny are you going to run
the factory exhaust manifold will work with your a.c. box. It is best to flip it upside down for more clearance. If your engine is nonintercooled and you don't want to change the turbo to intake piece then leave the manifold in the stock orientation and heat shield the box so you don't melt the vaccumm box on it.
the engine mounts are easy to make and I have an extra set and can get you measurements if you need.
what tranny are you going to run
I used a Bronco rear tank and went with one tank and a Air dog fuel pump set up.
you can use the stock exh manifold you may have to flip it but it worked for me in the stock location
I went with the DCS A/C adapter fitting and used the Dodge A/C compressor it made it an easy swap
you can use the stock exh manifold you may have to flip it but it worked for me in the stock location
I went with the DCS A/C adapter fitting and used the Dodge A/C compressor it made it an easy swap
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Can I get the specs for the mounts you made? No hurry, I just started. I am going to take it slow, this build is going to be my daily driver.
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