460 cam recommendation 78 ford f150 4x4
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460 cam recommendation 78 ford f150 4x4
I need advice!! I have a 78 ford f150 4x4 I have 460 bored .040" over with flat top pistons. The engine is 10 to 1 compression with edelbrock performer rpm heads. It has a performer rpm air gap intake port matching the heads. Msd 6al ignition and holley 750 cfm hp series double pumper. Scorpion race roller rockers 1.73 ratio. The current cam Is a comp cams 280 h. I would like to go milder on duration. The truck is a 4 speed with 4:11 gears on 35" tall tires. I know I don't have the perfect combo for a street truck! I just want to gain a little more drivability! The truck is never used for towing . It's just a weekend toy!!
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I would shoot for something in the 1500-6000 rpm range. That would put you in the 270 territory. A comp 270 extreme 4x4 is a pretty good grind in a build like that. Set the valve train geometry up PROPERLY, research if you are in question. Those heads are likely too big for a heavy truck street driver, meaning that by the time they light you are in terrifying territory for a big show truck. A head cc and a cubic inch combo are related to the rpm range, And I would feel that those heads flow enough to deteriorate low end torque and driveability, meaning that a smaller cam might be asking for a recipe that might causethe dog to bite you if you feed it to him. The more flow the heads have, the harder to light them, and driveability suffers until the heads are "lit" Make sense?
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The duration at 0.050" is good, but the gross valve lift is something I'd be afeared of....depending how heavy yer foot is.. Like valve to piston clearance....you'll check that, yes?
With the flat top pistons, what's the deck height in relation to the piston at TDC?
You'll need the whole kit, naturally, but how about going a little less?
Like 0.524"/0.540" ? Or something in that gross valve lift neighbor hood..... I think it comes in at 1200 - 5500 RPMs.
With the flat top pistons, what's the deck height in relation to the piston at TDC?
You'll need the whole kit, naturally, but how about going a little less?
Like 0.524"/0.540" ? Or something in that gross valve lift neighbor hood..... I think it comes in at 1200 - 5500 RPMs.
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My pistons ore .005" in the hole. I really don't want to much higher on gross lift for sure if any thing I was thinking less duration maybe! It's a good running moter I'm starting to wonder if I should even mess with it!! The cam I had in the moter before was a crane cams powermax 272 but that was with cast heads d2ve heads and a performer intake that were ported. The moter definitely had nice torque but the cam lost a lobe so I went with the 280h. I went with the aluminum heads because my engine builder talked me into it and I was having detonation problems with those junk d2ve heads.
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In general, the higher the compression is, the lobe centers should get closer. I think your cam has 112 centers ? imo that is getting out there on the edge for a 10:1 motor, it might like 110 a little better but it's in there now and running ok and weather or not you would even notice a change like that is doubtful. Without flow numbers, lift and duration is a shot in the dark if you are looking for a noticeable difference. Once you have flow numbers you can get one custom ground for less than you would think and you will notice the difference then.
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In general, the higher the compression is, the lobe centers should get closer. I think your cam has 112 centers ? imo that is getting out there on the edge for a 10:1 motor, it might like 110 a little better but it's in there now and running ok and weather or not you would even notice a change like that is doubtful. Without flow numbers, lift and duration is a shot in the dark if you are looking for a noticeable difference. Once you have flow numbers you can get one custom ground for less than you would think and you will notice the difference then.
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