2004 vs 2006-7 6.0
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2004 is not a bad year for a 6.0, sure, the HPOP is a weaker spot than the later builds, but the(late builds) are not trouble free either.
If you are a little leery of an 04, you can always upgrade to the Adrenaline HPOP, if the one in there now goes bad. Or just jerk the old one and be done with it.
If this is a daily driver then drive it like you stole it a few times a week, or you will be pulling the turbo to clean/and or rebuild it.
Which one is studded? and what makes it bulletproof?
I've even seen adds for "partially" bullet proofed, which is a joke really.
Anyone can claim that just by adding a coolant filter.
If you are a little leery of an 04, you can always upgrade to the Adrenaline HPOP, if the one in there now goes bad. Or just jerk the old one and be done with it.
If this is a daily driver then drive it like you stole it a few times a week, or you will be pulling the turbo to clean/and or rebuild it.
Which one is studded? and what makes it bulletproof?
I've even seen adds for "partially" bullet proofed, which is a joke really.
Anyone can claim that just by adding a coolant filter.
#4
2004 is not a bad year for a 6.0, sure, the HPOP is a weaker spot than the later builds, but they9late builds) are not trouble free either.
If you are a little leery of an 04, you can always upgrade to the Adrenaline HPOP, if the one in there now goes bad. Or just jerk the old one and be done with it.
If this is a daily driver then drive it like you stole it a few times a week, or you will be pulling the turbo to clean/and or rebuild it.
Which one is studded? and what makes it bulletproof?
I've even seen adds for "partially" bullet proofed, which is a joke really.
Anyone can claim that just by adding a coolant filter.
If you are a little leery of an 04, you can always upgrade to the Adrenaline HPOP, if the one in there now goes bad. Or just jerk the old one and be done with it.
If this is a daily driver then drive it like you stole it a few times a week, or you will be pulling the turbo to clean/and or rebuild it.
Which one is studded? and what makes it bulletproof?
I've even seen adds for "partially" bullet proofed, which is a joke really.
Anyone can claim that just by adding a coolant filter.
#5
Don't buy a 6.0, or any other diesel for just a DD and not working it (towing, etc). Get a nice gasser and be happy that all you will worry about is oil changes...
You make a mistake buying a 6.0 used and it'll whip your wallet to death; well that goes for the other makes too -- lack of intel. equals lottery level luck or certain pain in the right rear pocket...
You make a mistake buying a 6.0 used and it'll whip your wallet to death; well that goes for the other makes too -- lack of intel. equals lottery level luck or certain pain in the right rear pocket...
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The brake hardware change really was not that much more of a change then good one-upmanship. The friction material change did more to improve the overall consumer brake feel/performance then the steel parts.
If you took the +’05 friction material and put it on a set of plates for the ‘99-04 (I had that done for giggles) you would think you’ve added ‘05 brakes on the older truck. There were some improvements with the steel, but you would need full test instrumentation to see it.
Friction material changes can really alter brake performance, but it’s always a compromise.
If you took the +’05 friction material and put it on a set of plates for the ‘99-04 (I had that done for giggles) you would think you’ve added ‘05 brakes on the older truck. There were some improvements with the steel, but you would need full test instrumentation to see it.
Friction material changes can really alter brake performance, but it’s always a compromise.
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Don't buy a 6.0, or any other diesel for just a DD and not working it (towing, etc). Get a nice gasser and be happy that all you will worry about is oil changes...
You make a mistake buying a 6.0 used and it'll whip your wallet to death; well that goes for the other makes too -- lack of intel. equals lottery level luck or certain pain in the right rear pocket...
You make a mistake buying a 6.0 used and it'll whip your wallet to death; well that goes for the other makes too -- lack of intel. equals lottery level luck or certain pain in the right rear pocket...
#9
The biggest benefit of the 05+ is not really the engine, it's the coil sprung suspension of the 4x4's. better ride and much better turning radius. not sure how much different the 2wd's are. You do get larger rotors too that I have heard reduce the warping issues that the earlier trucks had (TMT likely has some input on this).
If you really want you can actually upgrade the 03-04.5 engines to the newer hpop and oil system. It's a lot of parts but plenty of people have done it.
If you really want you can actually upgrade the 03-04.5 engines to the newer hpop and oil system. It's a lot of parts but plenty of people have done it.
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The brake hardware change really was not that much more of a change then good one-upmanship. The friction material change did more to improve the overall consumer brake feel/performance then the steel parts.
If you took the +’05 friction material and put it on a set of plates for the ‘99-04 (I had that done for giggles) you would think you’ve added ‘05 brakes on the older truck. There were some improvements with the steel, but you would need full test instrumentation to see it.
Friction material changes can really alter brake performance, but it’s always a compromise.
If you took the +’05 friction material and put it on a set of plates for the ‘99-04 (I had that done for giggles) you would think you’ve added ‘05 brakes on the older truck. There were some improvements with the steel, but you would need full test instrumentation to see it.
Friction material changes can really alter brake performance, but it’s always a compromise.
On 4x4: coil front with F-550 control arms, 5.1' tighter turning radius, Dana 60 with 35 spline axle and 6K lb capacity, all new steering system.
Increased Frame thickness between 10% to 17%, increasing frame strength between 10 to 20%. New rear suspension w/ 3" wide leafs, changed shock placement, 7K lb SRW rear axle, MCU body mounts, Bigger brake rotors and calipers and improved pad material, new master cylinders. First time (and first of the big 3) to offer integrated trailer brake control, increased towing and carrying capacity, 17" minimum wheel size (larger rotors) up to 20", reverse vehicle sensor (not sure if this was offered before '05), up fitter switches offered. And while it wasn't in the brochure I think the sway bar(s) were bigger too...
Engine-wise: the improved HPOP, I think the ICP was moved mid-'04, bigger water pump, improved intake elbow, turbo update, and at this point I'm going off of too much feeble memory...
Scott
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Maybe it seems like minor mods, but I still have my '05 brochure (wouldn't you figure...). Here are some tidbits from it:
On 4x4: coil front with F-550 control arms, 5.1' tighter turning radius, Dana 60 with 35 spline axle and 6K lb capacity, all new steering system.
Increased Frame thickness between 10% to 17%, increasing frame strength between 10 to 20%. New rear suspension w/ 3" wide leafs, changed shock placement, 7K lb SRW rear axle, MCU body mounts, Bigger brake rotors and calipers and improved pad material, new master cylinders. First time (and first of the big 3) to offer integrated trailer brake control, increased towing and carrying capacity, 17" minimum wheel size (larger rotors) up to 20", reverse vehicle sensor (not sure if this was offered before '05), up fitter switches offered. And while it wasn't in the brochure I think the sway bar(s) were bigger too...
Engine-wise: the improved HPOP, I think the ICP was moved mid-'04, bigger water pump, improved intake elbow, turbo update, and at this point I'm going off of too much feeble memory...
Scott
On 4x4: coil front with F-550 control arms, 5.1' tighter turning radius, Dana 60 with 35 spline axle and 6K lb capacity, all new steering system.
Increased Frame thickness between 10% to 17%, increasing frame strength between 10 to 20%. New rear suspension w/ 3" wide leafs, changed shock placement, 7K lb SRW rear axle, MCU body mounts, Bigger brake rotors and calipers and improved pad material, new master cylinders. First time (and first of the big 3) to offer integrated trailer brake control, increased towing and carrying capacity, 17" minimum wheel size (larger rotors) up to 20", reverse vehicle sensor (not sure if this was offered before '05), up fitter switches offered. And while it wasn't in the brochure I think the sway bar(s) were bigger too...
Engine-wise: the improved HPOP, I think the ICP was moved mid-'04, bigger water pump, improved intake elbow, turbo update, and at this point I'm going off of too much feeble memory...
Scott
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