Manual Brake Conversion
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The '94 Ranger MC would work but, I doubt the '94 Ranger brake booster will be a direct bolt-on. I'm fairly certain the Ranger booster was mounted directly to the firewall in its original application. The mounting studs will likely not line up with the existing mounting holes in the firewall/pedal support.
Bumpside and a Dentside boosters mounted to the firewall with a pair of brackets in between. There were three major bracket designs that could have been used, depending on booster type (single diaphragm or dual diaphragm) and year model it was installed in.
If you're installing a power brake booster from a Dentside, it's best to stick with the '77 - earlier models.
I have a dual diaphragm booster/brackets from a '75 F350 in my '69 F100 with a '95 Ford Explorer MC. I have a '77 F100 front disc brake suspension and the stock '69 F100 drums on the rear.
Bumpside and a Dentside boosters mounted to the firewall with a pair of brackets in between. There were three major bracket designs that could have been used, depending on booster type (single diaphragm or dual diaphragm) and year model it was installed in.
If you're installing a power brake booster from a Dentside, it's best to stick with the '77 - earlier models.
I have a dual diaphragm booster/brackets from a '75 F350 in my '69 F100 with a '95 Ford Explorer MC. I have a '77 F100 front disc brake suspension and the stock '69 F100 drums on the rear.
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The '94 Ranger MC would work but, I doubt the '94 Ranger brake booster will be a direct bolt-on. I'm fairly certain the Ranger booster was mounted directly to the firewall in its original application. The mounting studs will likely not line up with the existing mounting holes in the firewall/pedal support.
Bumpside and a Dentside boosters mounted to the firewall with a pair of brackets in between. There were three major bracket designs that could have been used, depending on booster type (single diaphragm or dual diaphragm) and year model it was installed in.
If you're installing a power brake booster from a Dentside, it's best to stick with the '77 - earlier models.
I have a dual diaphragm booster/brackets from a '75 F350 in my '69 F100 with a '95 Ford Explorer MC. I have a '77 F100 front disc brake suspension and the stock '69 F100 drums on the rear.
Bumpside and a Dentside boosters mounted to the firewall with a pair of brackets in between. There were three major bracket designs that could have been used, depending on booster type (single diaphragm or dual diaphragm) and year model it was installed in.
If you're installing a power brake booster from a Dentside, it's best to stick with the '77 - earlier models.
I have a dual diaphragm booster/brackets from a '75 F350 in my '69 F100 with a '95 Ford Explorer MC. I have a '77 F100 front disc brake suspension and the stock '69 F100 drums on the rear.
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https://scarebird.com/index.php?rout...product_id=149
I was sent this link, this is only for the adapter kit, throw in the calipers, rotors, MC and the price is $650. The thing that drives me nuts is they use Dodge RAM rotors and GM calipers! Why isn't there a vendor that can make a adapter kits and use Ford parts ?!?!?! I know Ford trucks came with disc brakes in the 70's !
I was sent this link, this is only for the adapter kit, throw in the calipers, rotors, MC and the price is $650. The thing that drives me nuts is they use Dodge RAM rotors and GM calipers! Why isn't there a vendor that can make a adapter kits and use Ford parts ?!?!?! I know Ford trucks came with disc brakes in the 70's !
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https://scarebird.com/index.php?rout...product_id=149
I was sent this link, this is only for the adapter kit, throw in the calipers, rotors, MC and the price is $650. The thing that drives me nuts is they use Dodge RAM rotors and GM calipers! Why isn't there a vendor that can make a adapter kits and use Ford parts ?!?!?! I know Ford trucks came with disc brakes in the 70's !
I was sent this link, this is only for the adapter kit, throw in the calipers, rotors, MC and the price is $650. The thing that drives me nuts is they use Dodge RAM rotors and GM calipers! Why isn't there a vendor that can make a adapter kits and use Ford parts ?!?!?! I know Ford trucks came with disc brakes in the 70's !
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I think I saw a Bump owner on here somewhere that was making and selling custom AC brackets for his IL 6, wonder if he could spec out something?
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If they work, I would just replace worn parts of it were my truck. Patience may reward you with finding the parts in the future closer/cheaper. Also a decent tool kit will be essential. Maybe you can find fellow enthusiasts in your area that can offer help.
my brakes were shot but my truck already had discs up front. So far I have:
Made new hard lines ($30 each for 2-25' rolls nicopp line, assorted flare end nuts $10, $60 for one each manual double flare tool and ISO bubble flare tool, tube bending and cutting tools I already had as well as files, line pliers, and bench vises)
New 95 explorer master cylinder ($50) I think this is a good upgrade, though I would strongly advise against a used one
Reman 78 F350 booster ($70)
Distribution block reseal ($10)
brake cleaner several cans
it adds up quickly.
I haven't been able to bleed the brakes yet and check my work on the lines, hopefully my flare fittings are good and I don't have to redo any of them.
And I still need brake hoses (getting stainless steel about $100), drum hardware kits, wheel cylinders, and possibly
Drums, rotors, callipers, pads, shoes, bearings, seals and maybe more I forgot to mention depending on what they look like when I get to them next month.
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Main purpose is to make it more driver friendly, I have a daughter that will eventually wanting to drive this. I also believe there are some other Ford truck owners that have thought the same thing. Why not make an adapter that uses still available Ford parts? I have reviewed the front end swaps and I have to admit that's a ton of work to just get Ford disc brakes. I don't know, maybe I'm just dreaming
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12 fastener points and the suspension is out/in.
Putting an aftermarket disc brake kit on existing beams/radius arms is rather pointless if you don't replace the kingpins/bushings, I-beam and radius arm bushings during the process. The brakes will only work as good as the foundation they're connected to. If the suspension is tight, the brakes will work well. If the suspension is sloppy, the brakes will be too.
If you're going to go to the trouble of removing the existing suspension parts to replace the consumable components, it just seems to make more sense (at least to me), that if you're taking the old suspension loose anyway, to swap in a Dentside front discs/suspension.
I've done this swap twice ('69 F100 and on a '72 F100). It was a worthwhile effort.
Putting an aftermarket disc brake kit on existing beams/radius arms is rather pointless if you don't replace the kingpins/bushings, I-beam and radius arm bushings during the process. The brakes will only work as good as the foundation they're connected to. If the suspension is tight, the brakes will work well. If the suspension is sloppy, the brakes will be too.
If you're going to go to the trouble of removing the existing suspension parts to replace the consumable components, it just seems to make more sense (at least to me), that if you're taking the old suspension loose anyway, to swap in a Dentside front discs/suspension.
I've done this swap twice ('69 F100 and on a '72 F100). It was a worthwhile effort.
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12 fastener points and the suspension is out/in.
Putting an aftermarket disc brake kit on existing beams/radius arms is rather pointless if you don't replace the kingpins/bushings, I-beam and radius arm bushings during the process. The brakes will only work as good as the foundation they're connected to. If the suspension is tight, the brakes will work well. If the suspension is sloppy, the brakes will be too.
If you're going to go to the trouble of removing the existing suspension parts to replace the consumable components, it just seems to make more sense (at least to me), that if you're taking the old suspension loose anyway, to swap in a Dentside front discs/suspension.
I've done this swap twice ('69 F100 and on a '72 F100). It was a worthwhile effort.
Putting an aftermarket disc brake kit on existing beams/radius arms is rather pointless if you don't replace the kingpins/bushings, I-beam and radius arm bushings during the process. The brakes will only work as good as the foundation they're connected to. If the suspension is tight, the brakes will work well. If the suspension is sloppy, the brakes will be too.
If you're going to go to the trouble of removing the existing suspension parts to replace the consumable components, it just seems to make more sense (at least to me), that if you're taking the old suspension loose anyway, to swap in a Dentside front discs/suspension.
I've done this swap twice ('69 F100 and on a '72 F100). It was a worthwhile effort.
I live in the middle of a huge metroplex, the Pick-n-Pulls don't keep anything older than 90's parts on the lots. If I were to find a donor not only would I have to drive there and back, find a way to pull the parts, they would all have to fit in my Kia LOL !
I agree with you, when I go to install the kit (with Dodge rotors and GM calipers) I will most like order the pins and bushings to replace the worn out parts. Again all these are small and can be shipped to my local Parts distributor or even my home.