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bnmccoy 09-11-2010 11:04 PM

Great video, thanks for sharing.

EpicCowlick 09-12-2010 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by cummins cowboy (Post 9317836)
it didn't look like you prefilled the oil filter, maybe you did, was the oil that came out of the truck really dark??

The oil was pretty dark, but no different than other oil changes. Is your's still new looking after 5,000 miles?


Originally Posted by Rutcutter (Post 9317839)
Love the video's EpicCowlick ! I thought the drain plug was cool too! You should have filled the oil filter before installation though... LOL

Now that you mention it, I have heard of pre-filling filters. I didn't do it tough, is that a bad thing?


Originally Posted by Troy Buenger (Post 9317905)
Excellent Video and very informative... Noticed you used 5W-40 weight.

Shell Rotella T6 5W-40. Everything I've read so far says it's a good oil. We'll see.


Originally Posted by Painted Horse (Post 9318434)
You didn't show what it took to remove the old filter. I'm spoiled by how easy the filter was on the top of the 6.0. I need to go see what size of filter wrench I need to get the dirty filter off. Hope I still have some old filter wrenches around that will fit that size on this truck.

I use a 5 gallon bucket to catch my dirty oil. I buy oil and hydraulic fluid for my skid loaders and mini execavators in the 5 gallon buckets, So I've got old buckets around. They have a pour spout that makes it easy to dump the old oil at what ever recycling place I take it to. 13 quarts will only fill the 5 gallon bucket about 2/3rds full. Slide it out from under the truck and snap the lid back on.

So whats next Epic, A video on changing the fuel filters?

I did try to record removing the old filter, but my little camera was off-angle and too dark. Had to skip that part. It was easy though, removed it with only my hands. There's plenty of room to get an oil filter wrench up in there. A five gallon bucket would work fine. The mouth on this catch-pan is super wide though which made it really easy to make sure I didn't over-shoot the opening. Hate wiping oil off the floor. And yes, sure, I'll make a video of the fuel filter changes. It's really easy to do with Windows Live Movie Maker which is a free download. The only weird part is the actual recording. Sounds like I'm talking to myself the whole time.


Originally Posted by tolliewolly (Post 9318548)
Was that metal filter the only oil filter for the 6.7?

I have a 6.0 and have that big top oil filter. I am getting ready to buy a new 2011

Holy crap! Serious? Is there a second filter on these engines? Because I sure didn't change it.


Originally Posted by Painted Horse (Post 9319033)
Did you have any problem finding a filter? And was it reasonibly priced?

I ordered two filters from DieselFiltersOnline.com. $19.95 each plus $8 shipping. Most I've ever paid for a filter but less than the price at the dealer.

Ford 6.7 liter Powerstroke Turbo Diesel Truck Filters - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks

cummins cowboy 09-12-2010 09:42 AM

epic, what other diesels have you had before, a diesel will soot the oil way more than a gas engine however, these newer engines especially my dodge puts a ton of soot into the oil, I could go and change the oil thats in there that has only about 2k miles on it, replace it all with new and it would still look like road tar.

let me put it this way, was the new oil really dark after you replaced it.

as for filling the filter, it probably doesn't make a lot of difference but I feel it helps get the oil flowing through the system a second or two faster, which can't be a bad thing.

Tom 09-12-2010 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by EpicCowlick (Post 9319596)
Holy crap! Serious? Is there a second filter on these engines? Because I sure didn't change it.

There is only one filter on this engine, and that's the one you changed.

The previous gen engines, the 6.0L and 6.4L had a cartridge-style filter on top of the engine. Was a real breeze to change without making a mess.

This one looks easy to get to and change, but a bit messier than the outgoing design.

FishOnOne 09-12-2010 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by EpicCowlick (Post 9319596)

Holy crap! Serious? Is there a second filter on these engines? Because I sure didn't change it.

Your good... there is only one oil filter on these 6.7psd. I believe the gentlemen was making a comparison on the 6.0 psd with the cartridge oil filter on the top vs the 6.7 has the filter on the bottom.

GMUGNIER 09-12-2010 10:39 AM

Can anyone confirm that there isn't a second filter?

EpicCowlick 09-12-2010 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by cummins cowboy (Post 9320102)
... as for filling the filter, it probably doesn't make a lot of difference but I feel it helps get the oil flowing through the system a second or two faster, which can't be a bad thing.

I wondered if the engine would make any "dry valve" sounds on initial start up after the oil change. I knew a lot of oil had to fill up the filter, etc but didn't think of pre-filling the filter. For this reason, I recorded the initial start-up in the video. Short of a formal acoustic analysis, I couldn't tell any difference in the start-up sounds of the engine. Sounded pretty normal. You can listen to it again to see what you think.


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 9320115)
The previous gen engines, the 6.0L and 6.4L had a cartridge-style filter on top of the engine. Was a real breeze to change without making a mess.

This one looks easy to get to and change, but a bit messier than the outgoing design.

I don't see a way to get the filter off without dealing with a bunch of dripping oil. This upside down design definitely keeps the oil in the cartridge, which is good, but all of the oil in the piping above it comes out and over the filter as soon as you break the rubber seal. I'm definitely wearing gloves next time and I'm not going to doddle with it. The best way is to simply get after it and turn off the filter quickly.

Note to everyone: Don't drop it in the full catch-pan to try to avoid a little oil on your fingers. You'll end up with a big splash on the floor, your arm, your shirt and your face. Trust me, I know.

Tom 09-12-2010 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by EpicCowlick (Post 9320384)
I don't see a way to get the filter off without dealing with a bunch of dripping oil. This upside down design definitely keeps the oil in the cartridge, which is good, but all of the oil in the piping above it comes out and over the filter as soon as you break the rubber seal. I'm definitely wearing gloves next time and I'm not going to doddle with it. The best way is to simply get after it and turn off the filter quickly.

Yep, definitely gonna miss the old design.

On my 6.4L you simply loosen the cap on top of the engine, let the oil drain for a few seconds, pull the filter and cap upward, tip upside down, and carry away. Very easy to not spill even a drop of oil.

But with any luck these oil filters will eventually be cheaper than the FL-2016 cartridge filters used in the outgoing engines. Never could get one cheaper than $18 at wal-mart!

PowerStrokeHD 09-12-2010 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by GMUGNIER (Post 9320317)
Can anyone confirm that there isn't a second filter?

There is only one oil filter, the one that EpicCowlick replaced in his video. None of the PSD's have a second oil filter. Now the 6.0L, 6.4L and 6.7L all have 2 fuel filters. Maybe that is what you are thinking of?

JReinert 09-12-2010 02:28 PM

A little trick that I learned is to take an old screwdriver and sharpen it to a point and use this to puncture the bottom of the filter. It takes a little longer do drain the filter but at least you know where the oil is going.

EpicCowlick 09-12-2010 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by JReinert (Post 9320975)
A little trick that I learned is to take an old screwdriver and sharpen it to a point and use this to puncture the bottom of the filter. It takes a little longer do drain the filter but at least you know where the oil is going.

That's a mighty fine idea. Seems like it would drain the filter and upper hoses pretty quickly. It's only a quart or two. I'm going to try that next time except I'll use a punch. I couple of extra smacks will create a 3/4 inch hole.

tolliewolly 09-12-2010 07:32 PM

There is no second oil filter. I was just wondering if the one he changed was the oil filter. It looked kinda small. The 6.0 oil filter is alot bigger than that oil filter he changed for the 6.7

Broughton 09-13-2010 01:24 PM

Laughter makes the world go round....
 
That's all I got,
We do appreciate your efforts!
Newbie here, going back quiet.
Oh, did I mention I'm a previous Dodge guy?
Oops, I gues I've arrived at the bright side.:-jammin:-missingt

EpicCowlick 09-13-2010 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by tolliewolly (Post 9321824)
There is no second oil filter. I was just wondering if the one he changed was the oil filter. It looked kinda small. The 6.0 oil filter is alot bigger than that oil filter he changed for the 6.7

The filter is pretty big actually. I'd say about twice as tall as the filters on my previous gas trucks. This is my first diesel which goes along way towards explaining why I'm so geeked out about it. I haven't had this much fun with a vehicle in a long time.

EpicCowlick 09-14-2010 07:47 AM

I just copied this from the diesel supplement:
To change the engine oil and oil filter:
1. Unscrew the oil filter and oil pan drain plug and wait for the oil to
drain.
Note: The oil pan drain plug only requires 1/4 turn to removal/install. A
3/8 inch socket drive may be used to assist with removal/installation, but
be careful not to over-tighten the plug during installation.
2. Replace the filter.
3. Reinstall the oil pan drain plug.
4. Refill the engine with new oil. For the proper capacity, see
Maintenance product specifications and capacities in this chapter.
5. Reset the Intelligent Oil Life Monitor™. See Message center in the
Instrument Cluster chapter for more information.
Obviously says nothing about pre-filling the filter which makes me feel better. Is this practice common in dealerhsips or at Ford? Or is this something that is just a good idea perpetuated in the forums? I wonder if the factory pre-fills the filters when they install the engine on the truck for the first time.


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