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3rdshiftDiscretion 08-02-2010 09:07 PM

i feel like an idiot.....
 
so im disassembling my second flathead of the month after getting my original flathead built. as i was removing the bottom end. i ran into a problem where the cylinder walls had so much ring groove i couldnt knock the pistons out the way they should come out so trying to improvise i took the crank off and tried pulling the pistons out the wrong way and realized they couldnt be removed that way . so instead of dealing with the problem and messing something up ( im 19) im deciding to send the block off to shop and have them remove the pistons for me. im going to need it bored out anyways. am i doing the right thing or am i really just an idiot. i feel stupid and cant think of any other way to do it. whats my options at this point. litterally the only thing that has to be removed it the pistons

56panelford 08-02-2010 09:16 PM

Could you use a ridge reamer thingamabob.lol I think you know what I mean. Feeling like an idiot seems pretty normal to me, so don't let it get you down.

havi 08-02-2010 09:19 PM

I'm an idiot everyday. So I've been reminded from time to time. But if you have a brass drift or even a wood block you can whack them with a BFH.

56panelford 08-02-2010 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by havi (Post 9177288)
I'm an idiot everyday. So I've been reminded from time to time. But if you have a brass drift or even a wood block you can whack them with a BFH.

Lol, I was going suggest a crowbar at first but he's fairly new here and he might have thought I was an idiot:-X14

Doc 08-02-2010 09:31 PM

I noticed you said you were 19 years old. Let me say this--the fact that you're working on an engine, making progress, and have enough sense to ask for help makes you a GENIUS compared to most 19 year olds I know nowadays. Good for you!!!

Old F1 08-02-2010 09:32 PM

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You would have needed a ridge reamer but unless you are doing a lot of rebuilding better (and cheaper) to let the machine shop do it.

In my new behavior modification as recommended by management I might tactfully suggest that you might find a shop manual a valuable asset. (see thatís not hard is it?)

ALBUQ F-1 08-02-2010 09:50 PM

AutoZone loans ridge reamers out for free....

Piston Ridge Reamer | AutoZone.com

3rdshiftDiscretion 08-02-2010 10:49 PM

im going to try the RR. and no hitting it with a BFH will just do alot of damage thats unneeded. i was so irritated that i couldnt get it out. ill try it in the morning.

fifty-two_f1 08-02-2010 10:53 PM

19!!?? bout time I see someone on this board that is close to my age. Im 16.

havi 08-02-2010 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by 3rdshiftDiscretion (Post 9177695)
im going to try the RR. and no hitting it with a BFH will just do alot of damage thats unneeded. i was so irritated that i couldnt get it out. ill try it in the morning.

I won't argue that. Just that if the bore will be honed out .030" or so, and the pistons will need to be new for the bigger ID anyway, I just don't see what's saved? Not being arrogant here, just wondering. :o

Footnote: I'm used to starting with junk, not good blocks. And I remove the crank and knock them out the bottom. Most I deal with are rusty, so the block lays upside-down on the stand with MMO poured into the cylinder.

3rdshiftDiscretion 08-02-2010 11:26 PM

u know i was thinking the same thing also. im going to need all new bearings, piston rods rings pistons. oil pump resivoir , crank is still good but going to bring it in to see if it needs machined. and thats just all bottom end stuff. top end im going to get new exhaust manifolds . everything will be sandblasted and painted. im doing it right this time. no half ass rebuild

3rdshiftDiscretion 08-02-2010 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by fifty-two_f1 (Post 9177715)
19!!?? bout time I see someone on this board that is close to my age. Im 16.

have you done ure own rebuilds just wondering

havi 08-03-2010 12:17 AM

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I should heed to my signature. I would use the ridge reamer (no sense on starting lazy habits), and take them out the top just in case things aren't too worn out. Why spend money you don't have to, I s'pose. Inspection of the block and bores will dictate the need for new parts/pistons, and if getting away with just a re-ring would save money. Now if the engine has been sitting outside for many years, things may be a bit rusty, and it's time to get tough, lol.

3rdshiftDiscretion 08-03-2010 12:20 AM

and the bad thing is.... messing with these... i wouldnt trade it for anything. so much potential

55 f350 08-03-2010 02:22 AM

i too am impressed with the fact yer doing it yourself !!! it was the only way to do it when i was 19 as the " crate motor ' and all the easy way of doing things the wild wonderful world of the aftermarket has given us , wasn't quite what it is now . a ridge reamer isn't overly expensive , at least i hope not as mine has developed legs and walked , and with the spare flatty sitting i may want to play after all else is done , and anyway's tools period are a good investment . now you need to go find jeff and give him and his lady some incentive or mojo to get going on theirs again .................... although it is nice not being the only one with a "it should be easy to fix and get going" project in the garage ........................ hmmm brings back memories of my younger years and the amount of time i spent swapping or going through the drivline i just destroyed in the last race............................:-innocent oh and your gonna find out that old truck is way more fun than any tuner or new car you can buy !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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