new tsb ficm repairs. tsb#10-12-6
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=230>FORD:
</TD><TD>2003-2005 Excursion 2003-2007 F-Super Duty 2004-2010 E-350, E-450</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> ISSUE: Some 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2010 E-Series vehicles equipped with a 6.0L engine may exhibit a runs rough, lacks power, hard start, no start concern with or without diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0611 code or various injector circuit codes. This concern may be caused by a DC-DC converter located in one half of the Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) or by the main circuit board in the other half of the FICM. ACTION: Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition. SERVICE PROCEDURE FICM Information: The FICM contains two major internal components, the main circuit board and a DC-DC converter. The DC-DC converter is the device that amplifies battery voltage to 48 volts to operate the injectors. Low FICM supply voltage results in increased FICM operating loads, potentially damaging or shortening the life of the FICM. For contribution codes without circuit codes, go to Powertrain Controls/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) pinpoint test P. Do not continue with this procedure.
Electronic modules are sensitive to static electrical charges. If exposed to these charges, damage can result. Extreme care should be taken when performing this repair.
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part. <TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR><TH align=middle>OPERATION</TH><TH align=middle>DESCRIPTION</TH><TH align=middle>TIME</TH></TR><TR><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>101206A</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Not Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>0.5 Hr.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206B</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.1 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206C</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Not Necessary, Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.1 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206D</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Necessary, Inspect And Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.8 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206E</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2003-2007 F-Super Duty 6.0L: Perform PMI Install Resistor If Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>0.5 Hr.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206F</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2003-2007 F-Super Duty 6.0L: Perform PMI, Install Resistor If Necessary, Inspect And Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.7 Hrs.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> DEALER CODING <TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR><TH align=middle>BASIC PART NO.</TH><TH align=middle>CONDITION CODE</TH></TR><TR><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=middle>12b599</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=middle>42</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> |
Interesting. It would be my guess Ford is replacing a LOT of FICM's unnecessarily OR their warranty cost has gotten too high again.
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Frankly, I knew this was coming ahead of time. It was only a matter of WHEN. This is what is known as the flat rate game. While everyone else working in other professions are getting their pay INCREASED with raises and such, us techs are constantly getting our pay DECREASED with periodic issuing of updated labour time standards and "TSBs" (I call them To Save our Butts). You can thank a lot of "Super Techs" that brag about secret shortcuts, and exagerate the time they can complete a particular repair in, by posting on various and message boards and such. Next thing you know VOILA, a new TSB or labour time is issued, and techs everywhere will REFUSE to do the said repair in the new and revised time allowance, leaving the job to be done by hourly paid apprentices (with guidance from licensed techs of course).
Back to the topic at hand, I'm not the least bit surprised that this TSB was released, since the time I was introduced to the soldering "repair" (haven't actually tried it myself). If anything, I'm only wondering why it took so long for Ford to release it. |
Im with you on the ? of why
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Originally Posted by cheezit
(Post 9002036)
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=230>FORD:
</TD><TD>2003-2005 Excursion 2003-2007 F-Super Duty 2004-2010 E-350, E-450 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> ISSUE: Some 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2010 E-Series vehicles equipped with a 6.0L engine may exhibit a runs rough, lacks power, hard start, no start concern with or without diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0611 code or various injector circuit codes. This concern may be caused by a DC-DC converter located in one half of the Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) or by the main circuit board in the other half of the FICM. ACTION: Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition. SERVICE PROCEDURE FICM Information: The FICM contains two major internal components, the main circuit board and a DC-DC converter. The DC-DC converter is the device that amplifies battery voltage to 48 volts to operate the injectors. Low FICM supply voltage results in increased FICM operating loads, potentially damaging or shortening the life of the FICM. For contribution codes without circuit codes, go to Powertrain Controls/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) pinpoint test P. Do not continue with this procedure.
Electronic modules are sensitive to static electrical charges. If exposed to these charges, damage can result. Extreme care should be taken when performing this repair.
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TH align=middle>OPERATION</TH><TH align=middle>DESCRIPTION</TH><TH align=middle>TIME</TH></TR><TR><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>101206A</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Not Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>0.5 Hr.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206B</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.1 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206C</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Not Necessary, Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.1 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206D</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Necessary, Inspect And Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.8 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206E</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2003-2007 F-Super Duty 6.0L: Perform PMI Install Resistor If Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>0.5 Hr.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206F</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2003-2007 F-Super Duty 6.0L: Perform PMI, Install Resistor If Necessary, Inspect And Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.7 Hrs.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> DEALER CODING <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TH align=middle>BASIC PART NO.</TH><TH align=middle>CONDITION CODE</TH></TR><TR><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=middle>12b599</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=middle>42</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> |
Originally Posted by Alrafee
(Post 9037887)
The Figures does not appear, could you please send it to me (Abdullah.alrafee@gmai.com) thank.
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Originally Posted by cheezit
(Post 9002036)
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=230>FORD:
</TD><TD>2003-2005 Excursion 2003-2007 F-Super Duty 2004-2010 E-350, E-450 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> ISSUE: Some 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2010 E-Series vehicles equipped with a 6.0L engine may exhibit a runs rough, lacks power, hard start, no start concern with or without diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0611 code or various injector circuit codes. This concern may be caused by a DC-DC converter located in one half of the Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) or by the main circuit board in the other half of the FICM. ACTION: Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition. SERVICE PROCEDURE FICM Information: The FICM contains two major internal components, the main circuit board and a DC-DC converter. The DC-DC converter is the device that amplifies battery voltage to 48 volts to operate the injectors. Low FICM supply voltage results in increased FICM operating loads, potentially damaging or shortening the life of the FICM. For contribution codes without circuit codes, go to Powertrain Controls/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) pinpoint test P. Do not continue with this procedure.
Electronic modules are sensitive to static electrical charges. If exposed to these charges, damage can result. Extreme care should be taken when performing this repair.
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TH align=middle>OPERATION</TH><TH align=middle>DESCRIPTION</TH><TH align=middle>TIME</TH></TR><TR><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>101206A</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Not Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=left>0.5 Hr.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206B</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.1 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206C</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Not Necessary, Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.1 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206D</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2004-2010 Econoline 6.0L: Perform PMI, Resistor Installation Necessary, Inspect And Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.8 Hrs.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206E</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2003-2007 F-Super Duty 6.0L: Perform PMI Install Resistor If Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>0.5 Hr.</TD><TR><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>101206F</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>2003-2007 F-Super Duty 6.0L: Perform PMI, Install Resistor If Necessary, Inspect And Replace FICM Half Shell Or Entire FICM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)</TD><TD class=NOBORDER align=left>1.7 Hrs.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> DEALER CODING <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TH align=middle>BASIC PART NO.</TH><TH align=middle>CONDITION CODE</TH></TR><TR><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=middle>12b599</TD><TD class=NOBOTTOMBORDER align=middle>42</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> |
Alrafee, how many times are you going to post that question???
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Okay, I just priced out both parts.
FICM 4C3Z-12B599-ABRM Cost: $482.70 List: $583.47 FICM Half Shell 4C3Z-12B599-BARM Cost: $493.35 List: $836.19 WTF? So, a HALF FICM costs almost DOUBLE the price?!!!! |
No programming required with the half shell, but still doesn't make much sense.
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
(Post 9038163)
Okay, I just priced out both parts.
FICM 4C3Z-12B599-ABRM Cost: $482.70 List: $583.47 FICM Half Shell 4C3Z-12B599-BARM Cost: $493.35 List: $836.19 WTF? So, a HALF FICM costs almost DOUBLE the price?!!!! It's still :-lamesign |
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