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BigF350 02-09-2010 06:43 PM

Moderators, guidelines and how they are enforced.
 
Ok - Time to openly clarify our guidelines, who enforces them and how they enforce them.

Who are we?
Our team of moderators, super-moderators and administrators can be found here:
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - List of moderators
We are a friendly Ford-Truck owning bunch, so feel free to contact any of us, we are happy to help.
If you have a problem with your truck, try using the search function or post your question in the forum that covers your problem. As much as we would like to think we are experts on everything... we might struggle diagnosing your electrical issue on your 76 highboy in the Appearance Forum. :-X07 )
You will see us posting around the site (our names are highlighted in red) and your forum moderator can be found in the top left corner of each forum.

What are we here to do?
Hopefully give you a fun, enjoyable and informative place to chat with others of similar interests. We welcome everyone and we try our best to encourage a polite, friendly and informative atmosphere. To maintain all of this, we have a few rules, the lastest of which can be found here:
Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Discussion Forum Guidelines

How do we enforce these guidelines?
The million dollar question. We have a system just like your frequent flyer miles.
Earn some miles, earn a vacation!
Here are some of the things you can spend your posts on to earn miles, how many miles it gets you, and how long the miles are valid for!
  • Site Troll
    Points: 1
    Lasts: 3 Months

  • Signature Rule Violation
    Points: 1
    Lasts: 2 Months

  • Insulted Other Member(s)
    Points: 2
    Lasts: 12 Months

  • Inappropriate Language
    Points: 2
    Lasts: 12 Months

  • User Posting Classified Ad In Forums
    Points: 2
    Lasts: 6 Months

  • Contravened Guidelines
    Points: 2
    Lasts: 6 Months

  • Negative Racial/prejudicial comments
    Points: 5
    Lasts: 6 Months

  • Minor Spammed Advertisements - Commercial Advertiser
    Points: 5
    Lasts: 12 Months

  • Major Spammed Advertisements - Commercial Advertiser
    Points: 30
    Lasts forever and ever and ever

How far can I go with all these points?
We have a bonus program here at FTE, you can earn vacations by points, or by the number of trips you make!
Points based vacations:
  • 5 Points - 3 Days
  • 7 Points - 7 Days
  • 10 Points - 10 Days
  • 12 Points - 2 Weeks
  • 14 Points - Permanent
Trip based vacations (a/k/a Infractions):
  • 3 Infractions - 3 Days
  • 5 Infractions - 7 Days
  • 7 Infractions - 10 Days
  • 8 Infractions - 2 Weeks
  • 9 Infractions - Permanent

In lieu to issuing you frequent flyer points, moderators can elect to give you a warning. They are allowed to do this at their own discretion, if you are fortunate enough to be bestowed with one of these esteemed warnings, we suggest you heed it. FTE vacations aren't as pleasant as they are made out to be.
Super moderators are bestowed with the additional ability to give you "custom" infractions. Think of this as a tailor made holiday fit to your specific requirements.
Administrators in addition to all of these wonderful travel tools have the ability to send you on a permanent vacation with no points whatsoever! Consider yourself special if you are the recipient of one of these wonderful life long vacations.

I got a vacation, and I didn't earn it?
All appeals to warnings/points/vacations/brownies that are issued should go via PM to a moderator or super moderator. If PM coverage is difficult in your vacation location, you may e-mail info@ford-trucks.com.
This advice also goes for any friends that are found to be on a surprise vacation.

Vacations are non-refundable. They do not allow a return flight until your designated return date. :)

cmpd1781 02-09-2010 09:15 PM

Awesome post, Ade.....

This stuff comes up now and again. Question....

If you get an infraction, or a point, or whatever......Is it so obvious that you cannot log onto FTE without KNOWING that you received one?

In other words....A message pops up.......Or there's a 'message' in your 'inbox' telling you......or whatever........This is an honest question. I can't remember ever having gotten one, although I've broken nearly every rule (except for advertising), and I know I've PO'd a couple of moderators........Not on purpose, of course......:-innocent

Just wondering.

Carlene 02-10-2010 12:35 PM

If you get a Warning or Infraction, you receive a PM from whomever hit you up. Unfortunately, if you are so bad as to get banned for however long, you won't know it until your allowed back on FTE. I've asked about this before and they have no way of changing it from a PM to email.

Also, just an FYI, you know that Warm & Fuzzy feeling you get now & then that only you can feel and only you know its there unless YOU tell others, thats how Warnings/Infractions work - they are not visable to other users so no one knows you got one unless you tell them.

BigF350 02-10-2010 12:36 PM

Steve, good question.
A notification will appear at the top of the page as soon as you are the recipient of one, you will receive a PM from a moderator explaining why you received an infraction.
A list of all of your infractions will appear in your User CP (both expired infractions and ones with points still outstanding).
Essentially if you are a recipient of an infraction, you won't miss it ;)

It is quite rare that moderators hand out infractions Steve, despite getting well over 5,000 posts a day, and having over 1/2 a million members we probably average one infraction a day, we entrust our users to be self policing, and the team will typically reach out to people via PM to clarify our guidelines or possibly post in a thread to let someone know that they have violated the rules, it is also distinctly possible on occasions we will ignore some violations.
If our warnings are not heeded, then we typically follow up with issuing infractions on further violations.
You (and 99.9% of our other members) don't have an infraction Steve.

smotrs 02-10-2010 02:53 PM

Great post and very informative.

Back265 02-10-2010 07:15 PM

Thanks for posting this .... Good advice ..... So does GMC and Chevy adds on this site get points and infractions ?? :eek::-X04

cmpd1781 02-10-2010 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by IB Adrian (Post 8495569)

You (and 99.9% of our other members) don't have an infraction Steve.

Well. Thanks to you and the rest of the Staff for being patient and abiding....:-X22

BigF350 02-10-2010 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by Back265 (Post 8497212)
Thanks for posting this .... Good advice ..... So does GMC and Chevy adds on this site get points and infractions ?? :eek::-X04

I would be banned :-X14 - they help keep the lights on, and if nothing else, I see it as a compliment that they are that envious of our nice Fords :p

Greywolf 02-10-2010 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by IB Adrian
"we entrust our users to be self policing"

Which of course is what makes FTE what it is.

Then again there is also the "Rule of Nine"
Avoid posting anything at FTE that you would not want your nine year old son, daughter, or grandkids to see you writing... :-X22

powerstroke72 02-11-2010 10:21 AM

Great info Adrian and thanks for posting it. Clarifies some lingering questions that have been asked before.

kw5413 02-11-2010 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Carlene (Post 8495558)
If you get a Warning or Infraction, you receive a PM from whomever hit you up. .

Unfortunately, this has not always been the case. Hope it is for now and into the future.

Adrian, this is a great post and a long time coming.

GOOD JOB! and I like your approach.

Transparency is a wonderful thing.

BigF350 02-11-2010 02:53 PM

Keith - our moderation practices and the guidelines we enforce are both in constant evolution as both the needs of our users change and as we (as moderators) learn how to serve those needs better.

If you were not the recipient of a PM upon receiving an infraction in the past - my apologies, it is a practice our moderators heed and my experience is that our moderators communicate very effectively with our users when they notice an issue/concern.
I note that the one infraction you received (some time ago - and has long since expired) which I assume you are referring to was issued when the infraction system was in its infancy, and frankly we failed to understand its use/effectiveness like we do today.
Given your infraction has expired - it will play no bearing on your account status now, nor in the future.
Adrian

kw5413 02-11-2010 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by IB Adrian (Post 8500494)
Keith - our moderation practices and the guidelines we enforce are both in constant evolution as both the needs of our users change and as we (as moderators) learn how to serve those needs better.

If you were not the recipient of a PM upon receiving an infraction in the past - my apologies, it is a practice our moderators heed and my experience is that our moderators communicate very effectively with our users when they notice an issue/concern.
I note that the one infraction you received (some time ago - and has long since expired) which I assume you are referring to was issued when the infraction system was in its infancy, and frankly we failed to understand its use/effectiveness like we do today.
Given your infraction has expired - it will play no bearing on your account status now, nor in the future.
Adrian

It was a frivolous infraction anyway and I know the reasons it was assigned...as do you. :D I have no fear of it impacting my status here.

To apply a phrase: "I wasn't looking for work when I found this job" ;)

And no need to apologize, my friend, as it was not your doing. But, I certainly appreciate the overture.

BTW: Where the heck is my XXL "T" shirt......:-X09


:-missingt

Carlene 02-11-2010 03:50 PM

Shoot Keith, you just let everyone know that you had that warm & fuzzy feeling. (it wasn't me :D )

Sorry, couldn't resist.

BTW, long time no chat...........:-wink

kw5413 02-11-2010 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Carlene (Post 8500748)
Shoot Keith, you just let everyone know that you had that warm & fuzzy feeling. (it wasn't me :D )

Sorry, couldn't resist.

BTW, long time no chat...........:-wink

And I miss you, too, Darlin'. We did have some fun...pushing buttons and all...way back then.

I bet you guys miss me there...on the dark side. Ha, ha. :-X14

99f350sd 02-12-2010 12:29 AM

Gee what about those ad's I put on..HMMM never mind. LOL
Nice to get it all straight..Thanks


Dick

Greywolf 02-12-2010 09:29 PM

The only ads I put in my own sig are for things that I hope make FTE better, more entertaining, and more interesting

They are to our own forums. 8D

tjc transport 02-13-2010 05:56 PM

here is a question for yall on infractions.

an infraction is issued for insulting another member because the moderator read the post the wrong way.
the infraction was not deserved, and the person that was supposed to be insulted agreed that it was a joke, not an insult.
so the infraction was reversed by the issuing moderator.

now the mentioned non-infraction took place almost 2 years ago now, but still shows up as a sort of slap in the face every time i open my user control panel for doing nothing wrong.

is this going to be a forever reminder to me that i was unfairly accused of doing something wrong??

BigF350 02-15-2010 03:09 PM

Tom - in a word. Yes.
You are the only person that sees it :)

bunklash 02-15-2010 06:44 PM

Two questions:
1. What's a site troll?
2. Tom, you're from Jersey and DIDN'T insult somebody???? Say it ain't so! Don't you know we have a reputation to uphold???? 8D8D

All kidding aside, I welcome this very well written post for the civility it helps maintain on this forum. It is a very big part of what makes this forum one of the very best, of any topic, to be found. I quit another forum (ElantraXD) because they not only insult newbies and "outsiders", but they wouldn't even post my nicely worded objection to them ripping another newbie a new one.....sheeesh. Their monitors screen every post before it will appear.
Thanks ya'll, and keep up the great work!
:-X25 :-X25 :-X25 :-X25 :-X25

Julies Cool F1 02-17-2010 07:05 PM

Adrian is a site troll.

If he stops you you have to answer three questions to keep posting - or offer him cookies if you are from the "dark side."

BigF350 02-17-2010 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by bunklash (Post 8519200)
1. What's a site troll?

Its a "forum jargon" term.
It essentially describes someone whose whole purpose is to "stir up crap" and not contribute to the community in a positive manner.

An example would be someone who registers and says "All y'all Ford owners are flaming ^$#@!*$ and Dodge makes the best truck out there".
Apart from being wrong :-D, they would be called a "troll".

tjc transport 02-18-2010 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by Julies Cool F1 (Post 8529146)
Adrian is a site troll.

If he stops you you have to answer three questions to keep posting - or offer him cookies if you are from the "dark side."


no,no,no.
Adrian is not a troll..



he is the Ogre that gets rid of the trolls.:-spam

bunklash 02-18-2010 07:01 PM

Ah, good term, thanks for clearing that up for me. I always heard them referred to in more common terms, like....well, you know! :-X10

4tl8ford 07-07-2010 08:55 AM

What about an individual that was kicked off FTE permentently and then reregestered under another name and continues to commit the fraud - this has been pointed out to the mods and Admin time and time again.

kw5413 07-07-2010 09:06 AM

Parole, maybe?

Snowbunny 07-07-2010 01:30 PM

I always wondered how you guys worked around this.

Now that I know, it's like having the recipe for the eleven herbs and spices at KFC!!! :-X04

tjc transport 07-07-2010 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Snowbunny (Post 9082587)
I always wondered how you guys worked around this.

Now that I know, it's like having the recipe for the eleven herbs and spices at KFC!!! :-X04


yup, very good comparison.

the only difference is this place don't leave a bad taste in yer mouth after yer finished.:eek:

Snowbunny 07-07-2010 04:24 PM

True that, Tom!! :-jammin

havi 07-18-2010 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Julies Cool F1
Adrian is a site troll.

If he stops you you have to answer three questions to keep posting - or offer him cookies if you are from the "dark side."

Entertaining to say the least. :rolleyes:

ibuzzard 07-30-2010 09:02 PM

Guess I shouldn't say that.

havi 07-30-2010 11:04 PM

Oh, go ahead, and say it!

jmstrickland 10-25-2010 11:25 PM

hi,

First things first, this is a great site you folks have built. I have a question, are signatures still allowed? If so what are the rules for signatures? thanks

jase

havi 10-25-2010 11:39 PM

If you look towards the upper left, it'll say user CP. Click on that, you may already know that. Anyway, the list on the left side then should say edit signature. You can fiddle with it from there.

tjc transport 10-26-2010 03:32 AM

not sure, but i think you need 25 or more posts for a signature to show.

tiny1 11-16-2010 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by tjc transport (Post 9483130)
not sure, but i think you need 25 or more posts for a signature to show.

You are correct Tom

FORD RANGER 11-16-2010 01:16 PM

thats how long it took me. well with these guys help. you couldn't get a better bunch of people then these guys an dolls. i'm a mechanic and have helped alot. and there is alot of info on here. it sometimes gets crazy in here but its all good. and no cussing. no we are a good bunch. and stay away from the report button.

Greywolf 05-03-2013 07:14 PM

Curious situation -

1) Someone is sent on "SABBATICAL"
2) They have a bud who lets them on their computer
3) They use their friends logon to go right ahead and bust their vacation -

What is the price of sneaking back on in such a way, both to the tourist and their travel agent??? 8D

powerstroke72 05-03-2013 07:26 PM

If the bud knows he's on sabbatical, they both need a LONG vacation, if not permanent.;)

Greywolf 05-03-2013 07:29 PM

I would think if the bud knew it - the same VACATION should be applied equally, ya know it?

But if not... Hmm.

I suppose it IS up to us each to secure our own logins. A bud that gets you banned would not be allowed in my house anymore


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