Early Job 1 transmission question
 

I have an early Job 1 (04/07) 08 6.4L CC with a 5R110 that has the remote mounted external filter. I know I need to change the fluid sooner with this type of filter, but do I also have an internal sump filter? I dont want to pull the pan unless I need to replace an internal filter, and believe it or not the factory Service Manual is not exactly clear on whether the early tranny's with the remote external filter include an internal sump filter. Does anyone know? Thanks

they did both of mine when i took it to ford for it's tranny flush

I'm pretty sure this means you only replace the external filter. I believe the internal filter on these models is just a glorified screen to catch the largest debris.

I'm also a 4/07 with the external. Just had a flush done and external swapped. Not the internal, which as Crazy001 said, is just a screen.

For reference though, the screen's part number is FT144.

Thanks guys, and thanks Tom. I can always count on you.

Thanks for the info as well guys. I have an early 08 as well (01/07) and it needs the trans service.

I noticed the drain plug on the pan. Is there a plug on the converter? If there is I'll do the service myself. If not I'll let the dealer do it.

What has the dealer charged you guys to do it?

no drain on the TQ. You have to get it warm and then a thermostat lets the fluid flow.

Thanks. Sounds like a dealer trip while I'm at the office one day.

Just had the dealer do my tranny, an 05 but same as yours, $133.00 + tx. minus the ext. filter. did that myself after flush. FT-145 filter at dealer $44.71 on line at kmansparts - $20.99. Got two filters for the price of one and it takes about 10 minutes to change. That includes cleaning the filter housing and opening the 1st beer.

The 08'-up trucks that do have an external (not all do, check your bellhousing to verify yours is set up this way) have a different "external" filter than the previous model year trucks. This one is Motorcraft part number FT176 (Ford Part Number = 7C3Z-7B155-B) and retails significantly higher than the older style.

I realized that they changed the internal filter and pan but didn't realize that the ext. filter was also changed?

Unfortunately, yeah. On 08'-up, its either internal screen and the expensive external, or a true internal filter with bigger pan (and no external at all). Here is a photo of the external on the early build 08's, before the switch was made to the internal:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/DSC06862.jpg

Wow, big diff. Does the whole housing get changed or just the guts? What do they cost and do both or just one of the lines go thru it?

Both lines go through, to and return lines from cooler. I'd like to see one taken apart to see how that works. The whole thing gets changed. (You can see the mount-screw forward towards the oil pan). Only the lines, grey quick connet fittings and that black cradle that swings under it remain on the truck. Right side in pic is a quick disconnect. Left side is threaded. Filter costs anywhere from $80 to $150, depending on where you find it.

10 years later...6-18-2019
Gonna do a video on my FT176 change as i find none anywhere. how much fluid will i need to replace during this change?