No oil pressure, but oil is moving.
I have a rebuilt 460 with 5-6k miles on it. It had oil pressure on the factory guage before it was pulled. I took the motor, put in a summit cam/lifter set and a summit timing set(straight up) and all new seals/gaskets. I put it in my truck and when I fired it up I had no oil pressure on the factory guage or the mechanical guage. I shut the motor off and dismantled the truck. I still have the 460 hanging in my garage and am kind of curious what went wrong. I pulled the distributor last night and ran the oil pump with a drill. Oil came squirting out of the port for the mechanical pressure guage. The oil filter is full as well. How is it that oil is getting around but not building pressure?
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was the distributer turning the pump?
forget the pump drive or????? |
You didn't happen to have that engine up for sale on craigslist did you?
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Assuming the bearings etc are new and properly clearanced, I would look for missing oil galley plugs.
Did you replace the cam bearings when you replaced the cam? Maybe you blocked an oil hole? Is the engine running smoothly otherwise? If a lifter popped out it would dump most of the oil. Was the oil pressure good before you pulled the engine out of the donor? Don't know for sure which seals you replaced, but I assume no oil holes were blocked there? You probably have an internal leak somewhere, but enough pressure to keep oil moving. Usually the leak is bad bearings dumping most of the oil into the pan, but like I said, I assume those were OK prior to the cam change. Good Luck, Jim Henderson |
Second vote for the gallery plug in the timing case.
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Just guessing, but have heard about cam bearings spinning in the 385 series blocks & could be one has spun in the past & now when installing that new cam, it got pushed out of its hole so the oil is just flowing out past that area & not building presure at the sending unit.
Neil |
Originally Posted by littlehusky
(Post 7822611)
was the distributer turning the pump?
forget the pump drive or?????
Originally Posted by compman25
(Post 7823331)
You didn't happen to have that engine up for sale on craigslist did you?
Originally Posted by jim henderson
(Post 7823349)
Assuming the bearings etc are new and properly clearanced, I would look for missing oil galley plugs.
Did you replace the cam bearings when you replaced the cam? Maybe you blocked an oil hole? Is the engine running smoothly otherwise? If a lifter popped out it would dump most of the oil. Was the oil pressure good before you pulled the engine out of the donor? Don't know for sure which seals you replaced, but I assume no oil holes were blocked there? You probably have an internal leak somewhere, but enough pressure to keep oil moving. Usually the leak is bad bearings dumping most of the oil into the pan, but like I said, I assume those were OK prior to the cam change. Good Luck, Jim Henderson
Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
(Post 7824805)
Second vote for the gallery plug in the timing case.
Originally Posted by C-Leigh Racing
(Post 7825346)
Just guessing, but have heard about cam bearings spinning in the 385 series blocks & could be one has spun in the past & now when installing that new cam, it got pushed out of its hole so the oil is just flowing out past that area & not building presure at the sending unit.
Neil |
Top end oil goes first to the front side of the passenger lifter gallery.
There is a plug in the end of that drilling. (not recommending these mods, but here is a good graphic representation of the oil passages) http://www.enemyracing.com/oilsys.html Missed it in the first post but if it ran 5-6K miles without a problem, and you did nothing to the block but only swapped cams and lifters I would think the issue is there. Are the lifters loose in their bores? Perhaps Summit pulled the wrong item or the engine was rebuilt w/ oversize due to scoring. |
The lifters I put in fit as snugly as the ones I removed. I guess I will pull the timing cover and check the plug. I'll let you know what I find next week, heading out of town tomorrow so I'll be packing today.
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