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matt2491 06-20-2009 11:04 AM

Weird-looking Rear Fender...
 
What the hell is going on here?

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...1&d=1245171026

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...2&d=1245171026

jowilker 06-20-2009 11:37 AM

Is that a South American truck in the photo???



John :-X06

65fordguy 06-20-2009 12:03 PM

I saw that truck posted somewhere else, either the hamb or slick 60s.... I believe his truck had a dually kit on it.. and he removed it and had a late 50s early 60s styleside bed .. and he grafted the fender area in. If I see it I will post a link.:-bigparty

gritsngumbo 06-20-2009 02:24 PM

Someone said he modded a Unibody rear wheel well. ????

RocketMonkey28 06-20-2009 06:43 PM

That's an interesting take on the fender lines. It does appear to be reasonably balanced with the fronts. From the pics, it looks to be a good job. So, it's in white primer? That's kinda cool.....

37 Ford guy 06-20-2009 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by gritsngumbo (Post 7630214)
Someone said he modded a Unibody rear wheel well. ????

That's what he did.

cobraguy 06-20-2009 11:32 PM

I'm with John on this one I think it's an Argentina truck. I saw one in Cancun Mexico with the same lines

37 Ford guy 06-21-2009 02:34 AM

Well, here's a quote from the owner who posted those pics on another forum: "The truck has 80,000 org. miles and a 312 w/3speed overdrive
so I fixed the rear fenderwells ( They where cut for dually wheels) http://fordtruk.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif
Its a 1/2 ton so next is to replace the rear end and lower it."

He lives in Las Vegas, a few miles north of Mexico & Argentina.
If you look at the second pic you can see the holes where they had the dually fenders bolted on it.

jowilker 06-21-2009 05:53 AM

37 Ford guy, I am wanting to believe his story, I truly am. He did a hell of a job with the body work if he did what he claims.

The problem that I have is, the color on the kinda beat up ol truck is consistent front to back. A truck with an upgrade of body work should have better paint on it. A body man wouldn't do that high quality cut and paste without putting paint on it, and he sure as hell wouldn't leave two big holes in both sides.

Bill will have to chime in to help, but I am hedging that there were no fender over duallys built in the 60s.

Also the rear opening would be huge for the dual setup.

There were no 312 engines installed in trucks.

This story has holes in it. :-banghead



John :-X06

NumberDummy 06-21-2009 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by 37 Ford guy (Post 7632020)
Well, here's a quote from the owner who posted those pics on another forum:

The truck has 80,000 org. miles and a 312 w/3 speed overdrive, so I fixed up the fenderwells (They were cut for dually wheels). It's a 1/2 ton so next is to replace the rear end and lower it."

John, as Randy (37 Ford guy) stated above, the owner of the truck in question himself made this statement.

I met Randy yesterday at the F100 Western Nationals.

For someone who just bought one of these trucks for the very first time, he has done his homework and knows his stuff.

I also got to argue "live" with Dave (Garbz2) and Bill W. :-missingt

That's Bill W from AZ not the other Bill W...aka me, myself and I...tho I do argue with myself more than once during the day. You can prolly guess why!!

Ford did not offer a dual wheeled Styleside pickup until 1980, and it was only available as an F350.

AFAIK, Ford never offered a Flareside dual wheeled pickup.

Prior to 1980, dual wheeled trucks were F350's and larger, and sold as a cab and chassis, or as Open Drive-Away models: cowl and windshield, or cowl only.

No 312 engines were installed in F Series trucks.

312: 1956/57 T-Birds, Ford's and Merc's, 1958 Mercury Medalist.

jowilker 06-21-2009 06:37 AM

Bill, Thanks but I don't fully understand your post. You hung out with some left coast members at a car show yesterday. OK

Then you backup my claim that there were no duallys with beds, or 312s installed.

Look at the photo with those 8 lugs, it sure as hell aint no half ton.

I am saying IMHO the owners statement is bogus. South American trucks look similar but different.

Kinda like that ebay truck that were were discussing a few weeks ago.


John :-X06

banjopicker66 06-21-2009 07:25 AM

Those holes were for tie downs commonly used on those trucks. I do not know if they were dealer or factory, but you can see them on both sides. The front hooks pointed to the front, the rear hooks to the rear. The "chrome" trim around the taillights is cracked plastic - and like nothing I have ever seen on a Slick. No backup light on the lens so it appears correct for the time period. The trim is definitely '64. Yeah, what's up with this truck? Maybe it has South America parts on it?

NumberDummy 06-21-2009 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by jowilker (Post 7632116)
Bill, Thanks but I don't fully understand your post. You hung out with some left coast members at a car show yesterday. OK

Then you backup my claim that there were no duallys with beds, or 312s installed.

Look at the photo with those 8 lugs, it sure as hell aint no half ton.

I am saying IMHO the owners statement is bogus. South American trucks look similar but different.

Kinda like that ebay truck that were were discussing a few weeks ago.


John :-X06

Garbz and Bill W both live in AZ.

AZ is left of CA...but AZ has no seacoast....because the surveyors the US Gov't sent out in 1854 got thirsty. Half way across the desert, they turned NW, and made a beeline for Yuma's saloons!

37 Ford guy said he read on another forum that the owner of the truck made the bed changes.

Since the owner of the truck added dual rear wheels to an F100, he woulda had to have changed the rear end.

Ever see a 9" or Dana 44 with dual rear wheels? I haven't either.

banjo: You can tell from the pic that the taillight bezel is plastic, and not (faded) anodized aluminum?

JC Whitney sold el cheapo replacement body parts for cars/trucks...in most cases, the junk doesn't match the originals in type of material or finishes.

Ever see a JC Whitney replacement Ford hub cap? They're EZ to spot, because they say: FODR, FOOR, FDOR.

Usually these caps are as rusty as the Titanic, cuz they were nickel plated on bare steel. The Ford caps were stainless.

gritsngumbo 06-21-2009 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by jowilker (Post 7632116)
Look at the photo with those 8 lugs, it sure as hell aint no half ton.

I haven't researched other years, but according to the 62-63 Ford Truck Shop Supplement, not all F250's were 3/4 ton. The F250 3/4 ton was "registration rated" at 7,400 lbs. The "F251' @ 4,900 lbs is listed as a 1/2 ton. One model of the 4X4's is rated at 4,900 lbs. (Listed as a F263 and a 1/2 ton).
So, my 63 F250 Long Flare with Dana 60 (8 lugs) is (according to the shop manual) a F251 since it is GVW rated at 4,900 lbs, therefore a 1/2 ton. My point: a 1/2 ton can have 8 lug hubs from the factory.

tinman52 06-21-2009 10:51 AM

If it was once a dually, obviously it was homemade....lots of 1/2 tons had 3/4 ton rears stuck under them, I had one. If you look closely at the second pic, you can see where the white paint (or primer) was blended in around the repair area. T/M


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