Automatic E40D Swap to 5 Speed (Mazda M5R2)
Project Vehicle: 1991 F150 300 i6 4x4
Parts needed for conversion:
Removal:
Installation of 5 Speed and all components needed: Note that most of these parts are the parts from the above list and not your old ones, unless indicated. Before installation remove the shifter from the transmission via the three little screws that hold the retaining plate down. MAKE SURE THE SHIFTER IS IN NEUTRAL POSITION BEFORE REMOVING IT!
Wiring If you plan to use your old wiring then there are a few things you need to do.
However... You will have no Neutral Safety nor back up lights with this Method If you got the wiring from a donor truck and the computer then just install it all as well as the computer. If this information is not correct or missing parts please feel free to correct me. Unless I missed something or got something wrong you should be able to go test drive at this point. I did not go into great detail in any part of this so if you have any questions on any part please ask. I will do my best to answer anything you might want to know. :-X25 |
Great stuff. Thanks for posting. This should be put in the tech info.
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Originally Posted by rostena
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Great stuff. Thanks for posting. This should be put in the tech info.
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Thanks,
I wrote it for the sole reason of anyone searching the forums would have a general idea of whats involved. I just wish I would have taken pictures as I went to add to it. Going to write one up on the rear disk conversion I am about to do later today, I'll get pics this time! |
Here are some questions for you. :)
Did you install a pilot bearing in the crankshaft? Did you install thread sealer on the bolts that hold the flywheel to the crank or just use loctite? What was the cost for the swap? My guess is if your auto trans. is in good shape you could sell all of the parts you swapped out and break even. Are you going to swap the dash cluster for one with a tach? For safety reasons, I think you should wire the clutch pedal interlock switch properly. ;) |
Of course I installed the Pilot bearing. And yes I used thread sealer, else I bet I would have a nice oil leak about now. Reading back I missed the sealer part but said to use loctite when in fact I only meant to say use it on the pressure plate bolts. Also missing the part about the the pilot bearing which is important.
I was lucky and my cluster had a tach in it already. As for the neutral safety switch... well it is not a feature I really need. But if anyone else drove my truck I would not hesitate to wire it correctly. I only need to get the computer to have mine all set up correctly. The wiring is all laying in the shop. My total cost overall was about 600.00 but I added a few components new instead of used. I only paid 55.00 for the transmission. And 20.00 per drive shaft (I have more then that in U-Joints per drive shaft). The rest was little things ranging from 5.00 to 15.00 each. Every thing in the clutch system is new. My total cost also included cleaning stuff and paint. I saved all the parts to resell. The E40D is busted but I intend to rebuild it. (Never rebuilt an E40D) So if I get it right I might sell it too and if not I have one giant paper weight. |
Very nice post!
Did you notice any differences now that you have the standard tranny, how about mileage now? I am confused on one thing though. A link from this same website says that the transmission needs to be in 1st not neutral in order to remove the shifter............. https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...e_Measure.html |
Well I read that too... But when I left the transmission in first and pulled the shift I played games getting it to neutral so I could put the shifter back in and the transmission shift correctly.
I hope some beastly ford guru will chime in and let us all know the correct way rather then the way that worked for me. As for mileage, it dropped some in town but still decent on highway. Make sure you don't forget any seals like I did. And beefing up your firewall at the clutch master cylinder is a good idea also. |
My swap over should be fairly easy as I have a donor truck which is a 96 model with everything on it. I will let you know how things go too.
I recently did a chip for my truck and in the software I have the option to turn off the trans for a stick shift and choose between like 5 different trannies using the automatic ecm. So that part will be easy for me. I will let you know how the fuel economy goes as I now am getting 18.4 in the city. I haven't had anywhere to go to check the hwy mileage yet, but will post the results.... Thanks for this post too! |
I put mine in 2nd when I pulled the shifter on my M5OD (R2) to put in ATF in the tranny via shifter access.
Had to pull it because of a welded shut fill plug on the tranny. :-arrgh Came out fine, went in.....took me three tries but I knew it was in 2nd (told my wife in case I forgot) and finally got there. Just can't force it. /Ricache |
gauge cluster
how hard and what parts are needed to swap clusters
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I have an E40D that is dying, and was looking at a manual swap. My concern was the ECM, this answered my questions, thank you.
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If your doing a manual swap why not a ZF? I wouldn't swap to a Mazda 5 speed, since its not really that tough.
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i just obtained a "91 ford bronco full size" the E4OD that is presently in it is is cracked and this swap sounds interesting. (allready toying with the idea) I do have a few questions tho.
the adapter that joins my E4OD to the transfer case seems incompatible with the M50D that i have as a spare, where could i obtain one to match? (aside from running around every wrecker in the area till i find a compatible 4x4) what is the length difference for the drive shafts? 3-4" inches? and are there any suitable donors for this bronco? is there a manual transmission that would swap without the difference in length? would the ZF be a better choice for someone who tends to tow or off road on a regular basis? any more detailed information would be greatly appreciated |
The E4OD was the longest trans put into this particular year of truck. The two five speeds listed are approximately the same length, and you should get the 4wd transmission. You can adapt a 2wd to a 4wd, but you will have to have an entire donor trans to do it. You cant mix and match parts between autos or manuals unless it is between a 2wd version and a 4wd version.
The older T-18 4spd, NP-403, C-6, and AOD are roughly the same lengths, within an inch of one another, ZF and M5OD are roughly the same lenght as long as we are talking about the S42 (small block version) and the M5OD, and then the E4OD was significantly longer. |
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