Questions about my build.
I'm swapping a 460/C6 in my 60 F100 and I have a few questions. Has anyone ever used the CPP tubular trans crossmember(CP90045)? http://www.classicperform.com/NewPro...0045-Large.jpg
It did not come with any instructions or paperwork of any kind. I've tried a few different mounts but even when using the shortest trans mount I could find, they are all too tall. No matter how flip it or turn it I cannot get the crossmember to work. I pushed my trans all the way up to the floor board and the crossmember still won't mount up. It's like the trans tunnel needs to be raised 2-3". I'm also using CPP's tubular engine crossmember and during the initial mock up it looks like the crank pulley will hit the front crossmember. I didn't have the crank installed in the block during mock up. Will this have to be notched? I've noticed a few people using the same set up as mine but could not tell if they had to notch the front crossmember. Thanks for your help. |
Did you put the front crossmember where they suggested, or just eyeball it? I'd move it backwards, if it were mine. Why start off wrong?
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Again, no instructions or paper work included. The engine was as back as far as it would go without hitting the firewall.
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Did you remove the stock trans tunnel to make room? Does it bolt to the frame without the engine and trans in? If so your probably looking at fabbing up a trans tunnel or more.
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I did not remove the trans tunnel. Yes, it will bolt up to the frame several different ways without the trans installed but I can't tell which way it was intended to be mounted. I also don't know which trans mount was intended to be used with it. This was supposed to be a bolt in mount with no floor modifications needed. I can make it work if I make 2" spacers to drop the cross member down but I don't think I should have to do that since it is supposed to be made for this truck with this engine/trans. It's almost as if the mounting brackets on the ends are welded upside down. I think if they were flipped over it would work but that shouldn't be needed on a new part should it?
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Found this link on CPP web site; http://www.classicperform.com/Instru...gineTransX.pdf Don't know if this will work for your application:confused: hoping so:) You could try giving them a call I was told they had fairly good tech support,but then again:confused: I don't know
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Hi Rellim,
You are going to need quite a bit more drop in that mount if you plan to put a C6 in that F1. I have a 51 with a 390/C6 and mine (engine valve cover) is about 1/2 inch from the firewall horizontally, and maybe enough room for the emergency brake cable vertically between the top of the transmission and the cab floor tranny cover - VERY tight. And my transmission mount is depressed at least 9 inches on centers. Here's two pictures - hope this helps! https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...id=208554&.jpg https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...id=208555&.jpg As you can see in the top picture, the mointing bracket on the C6 is BELOW the lower lip of the frame I don't see how what you have pictured would possibly work (Sorry, I guess you already found that out hte hard way) Good Luck, Julie |
Thanks for the link, I read through it but it is very generic info. I've sent several emails to CPP and got no response. Looks like I'll have to call if I can figure it out.
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what vehicle did you get the transmission out of?
reason i ask is there is two different style of transmission tailshafts. there is the long tail that came in Lincolns and full size Fords/Mercs. they have mounts that use two arms off the side of the transmission. the short tail version uses a mount that bolts to the bottom of the transmission. this is probably the style that the crossmember is meant to be used with. just a thought as to what may or may not be the problem. rgds Mike |
Well I think the engine/trans came out of a 75 Lincoln.
Julie, Mine doesn't drop down quite that much. The mounting pad for the trans mount is about even with the bottom of the frame. |
i didn't use an aftermarket crossmember, i just fab'd up one. mine is just a piece of 1" sq tubing with a pad welded onto it. it sits pretty well flat across the frames and i am usung a Lincoln transmission also.
i will take a pic of it to show you, but i have no clearance issues at all and i have a 60 ford also and 460/c6 combo. rgds Mike |
That would be great!
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Originally Posted by mcdonaldm
(Post 7063391)
what vehicle did you get the transmission out of?
reason i ask is there is two different style of transmission tailshafts. there is the long tail that came in Lincolns and full size Fords/Mercs. they have mounts that use two arms off the side of the transmission. the short tail version uses a mount that bolts to the bottom of the transmission. this is probably the style that the crossmember is meant to be used with. just a thought as to what may or may not be the problem. rgds Mike
Originally Posted by mcdonaldm
(Post 7064418)
i didn't use an aftermarket crossmember, i just fab'd up one. mine is just a piece of 1" sq tubing with a pad welded onto it. it sits pretty well flat across the frames and i am usung a Lincoln transmission also.
i will take a pic of it to show you, but i have no clearance issues at all and i have a 60 ford also and 460/c6 combo. rgds Mike |
You are probably right, I thought this cross member would be tailored to my truck but I should have made one myself I guess. I'll call tomorrow and see what's up.
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I used one of the tubular mounts for the 460 engine in my 54 F250 and I cut and fabbed a tranny mount from the original tranny mount from the donor car(78 LTD). I had to drop cut and weld the tranny mount about 1" lower from where it would normally sit if mounted to the bottom frame lip.
On my 54 I thought I would have to get a different cover over the tranny in the cab and so I picked one up out of a F600 that has a hump. You may be able to do the same if you need more clearance. On the 54 the big truck cover is raised a couple of inches but bolts in to the same place as the pickup cover. I had enough clearance so I didn't have to use the big cover. I don't have the truck here, so can't get pics. |
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