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2 stroke man 10-26-2007 07:28 AM

Wildman
 
wildman chips...sounds good, especially price. how much hp can u get with it? how long have they been out there? not going to mess my truck up is it?

FFemt5287 10-26-2007 09:00 AM

well, with stock injectors you can only expect about 80-90hp over stock out of any chip or tuner because that's about all the fuel AA single shots will flow. from what ive heard, tony has been around for a long time and makes a pretty flawless product. ive had mine for about 15k miles and havent had a single problem with it. so long as you have atleast a pyrometer gauge in your truck to monitor ur egt's i dont think the chip wil mess up your truck. hope this helps

-Brandon

otpracer100 10-26-2007 09:29 AM

I've been on here a while and there is alot of very intelligent people on here that run the wildman chip! For that reason alone I believe in his product and when I get the money I will definetly have one. I don't know what you have for a truck but anytime you do significant horsepower upgrades you are risking damage unless all the preventitve steps are taken ie. tranny upgrade, gauges etc.


Dave

ForemanES 10-26-2007 12:03 PM

Both Tony Wildman and Jody Tipton are pros at tuning the 7.3. This is what they do and they are good at it. Edge, superchips ect all make a mass produced product that works with all the 94.5-03 7.3s. Wildman or dp tiner make the engine run as smooth as stock but when you press the "go" pedal you know there is a difference. I highly recomend one of these chips as well as gauges and about $200 worth of exhaust and intake upgrades (new down pipe $150, 6637 air filter $40, gut the cat $free). I actually noticed about a 1-2 mpg increase in daily driving and I was driving a lot harder than before :)

Right now you truck is making about 180hp at the wheels.
After these few upgrades you can see up to 250-260hp. It might not seem like much but it makes a big difference towing, all those hills you used to not look forward to are now kinda fun to see what you truck can do.

2 stroke man 10-26-2007 12:43 PM

180 hp to the ground? thats what they put stock. i got a kn intake, 90 hp super, and a straight pipe.

2 stroke man 10-26-2007 12:45 PM

sorry if that comment seemed rude.

FARM69 10-26-2007 01:21 PM

97's are rated 225 at the flywheel. If you want to really open it its takes injectors and bigger oil.

fuelman 10-26-2007 02:09 PM

I have read others on different forum say that DP's 40 & 60 hp tunes feel more impressive than others 80 options with all other things unchanged.

kawa 10-26-2007 02:37 PM

I think that I read somewhere that the auto tranny obsorbs approx. 50 hp and the manuel not quite that much. If I recall I think that it may have been c00nhunter that came up with those figures. If it wasn't him I'm sure he will let me know chop chop.
Rog

ForemanES 10-26-2007 03:10 PM

An actual chip that plugs into the PCM will respond better than a programmer. Plus you dont get that touchy pedal feel as with programmers.

2 stroke man please read up on k&n filters on diesel motors.
Did you change out the downpipe whenever you took the muffler off?
I would bet your motor is putting out 225-230 with the superchip. Better programming will get you a couple more pounds of boost as well as a smoother running engine.

fuelman 10-26-2007 03:36 PM

Pretty widely accepted that you lose 10-15% off the flywheel being consumed to make drivetrain work.

2 stroke man 10-26-2007 04:24 PM

o ya downpipe was the very first de-slugifying move i made on my crazy mission to try to turn a 7,000 something pound lead sled into a hotrod.lol.

UPDATE: WE SEEM TO HAVE AN OUT BREAK NOWDAYS OF PMS-POWERSTROKE MODIFICATION SYNDROME

c00nhunterjoe 10-26-2007 04:28 PM

E4's take up at least 50, it should be more like 75-80, similar to a c-6 trans power usage

tubzz 10-26-2007 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by 2 stroke man
180 hp to the ground? thats what they put stock. i got a kn intake, 90 hp super, and a straight pipe.

my truck with a afe intake and a down-pipe the rest was stock.the truck had 46000 miles on it did 166hp.which is about right for drive train lost.

glasseater 10-27-2007 09:26 AM

i believe it's a 21-22% drivetrain loss

c00nhunterjoe 10-27-2007 03:53 PM

that would be 49.5 hp, a little off with tubz numbers, 225-166, thats 59 hp, giving you a 27 % loss

glasseater 10-28-2007 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by c00nhunterjoe
that would be 49.5 hp, a little off with tubz numbers, 225-166, thats 59 hp, giving you a 27 % loss

yeah but every truck is different ;) i'd say it ranges from 160-190 depending on wear, maintance over the years, turbo condition, injector condition.. all that good stuff

lukecline 10-28-2007 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by FARM69
If you want to really open it its takes injectors and bigger oil.

You dont need bigger oil for more power ;). Superduty hpop is enough to support 500++ rwhp.

glasseater 10-28-2007 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by lukecline
You dont need bigger oil for more power ;). Superduty hpop is enough to support 500++ rwhp.

PHEW!! and a SD HPOP (we are talking the 7.3 ones right??) is kinda cheap... right?!?!

powerstroked162 10-28-2007 07:16 PM

A new 17* pump run me about $900. Big oil is not necessary until you start runnin true B-codes.

Cowboy Steve

glasseater 10-28-2007 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by powerstroked162
A new 17* pump run me about $900. Big oil is not necessary until you start runnin true B-codes.

Cowboy Steve

uh oh $900?!?!?! once i get a new trans i might need to save up a little! lol

powerstroked162 10-28-2007 07:41 PM

There is a few users on here that can get 17* pumps for under $500. I just went to the stealership and bought one, I had no time to search for one.

Cowboy Steve

glasseater 10-28-2007 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by powerstroked162
There is a few users on here that can get 17* pumps for under $500. I just went to the stealership and bought one, I had no time to search for one.

Cowboy Steve

ah now i understand and am feeling much more comfortable lol

tjbeggs 10-28-2007 08:18 PM

I have a link on my laptop with a site that has 17* pumps for less than $350 plus core. But if you don't have a 17* core you might have a problem. Also if you have an IH dealer that will get you parts at wholesale they are under $350 plus core but then same deal with the core unit.

tubzz 10-28-2007 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by powerstroked162
Big oil is not necessary until you start runnin true B-codes.

Cowboy Steve

a 17* pump wouldn't hold up to my A-codes.

arkredneck 10-29-2007 06:02 AM

how do you tell if you got the 15 or 17 degree pump?

tjbeggs 10-29-2007 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by arkredneck
how do you tell if you got the 15 or 17 degree pump?

The only sure fire way is to pull the rear cover of the HPOP to check for a bearing or a bushing. bearing is a 15* and bushing is 17*. But pretty much if your HPOP has never been changed any 94.5 to early 99 will have a 15* and late 99 to 03 will have 17*.

ForemanES 10-29-2007 11:02 AM

(click here) thats the cheapest around. Check on the core though

tjbeggs 10-29-2007 12:04 PM

once again you pick up my slack! nice link!

powerstroked162 10-29-2007 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by tubzz
a 17* pump wouldn't hold up to my A-codes.

[QUOTE=lukecline]You dont need bigger oil for more power ;) . Superduty hpop is enough to support 500++ rwhp.[/QOUTE]

Sounds like your 17* is a little weak Tubzz.

Cowboy Steve

FARM69 10-29-2007 02:09 PM

Well, it sounds like as long as you have a physical core to send them back its ok. According to their terms and conditions... Good price

Vengeance 10-29-2007 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=powerstroked162]

Originally Posted by lukecline
You dont need bigger oil for more power ;) . Superduty hpop is enough to support 500++ rwhp.[/QOUTE]

Sounds like your 17* is a little weak Tubzz.

Cowboy Steve

Tubzz is running 230cc stroked AA code injectors.

A snowball has a better chance of staying cold in Hades, than a single 17* hpop has of keeping up with those injectors.

I also am running those injectors, and dual hpops are required.

powerstroked162 10-29-2007 02:37 PM

I've never heard of 230cc AA's. Why run them over B-codes?

Cowboy Steve

lukecline 10-29-2007 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by powerstroked162

Originally Posted by lukecline
You dont need bigger oil for more power ;) . Superduty hpop is enough to support 500++ rwhp.

Sounds like your 17* is a little weak Tubzz.

Cowboy Steve

Terry's hpop isnt weak lol, his truck runs 12's with the ladder rack and all.

Vengeance 10-29-2007 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by powerstroked162
Why run them over B-codes?
Cowboy Steve

About a grand difference or more in the price.

powerstroked162 10-29-2007 03:37 PM

Hp is the same?

Cowboiy Steve


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