Bring it on.

I do have to give him credit. There is A LOT of "yuppies" (I got in trouble for this about a month ago... a few "yuppies" went off on me) that drive a 3/4 PSD, that have no need for it. Sorry if I offend anyone but face the facts. They buy a 3/4 ton truck to haul their son's 50cc quad around to the park.

I also agree that people want to feel "Manly" and buy a big truck, yet a Ranger would suit them just fine. I myself drive a ranger, and drive er with pride. Ain't too many folks drive a 91 Ranger with close to 315,000 miles on er. Why do I do it? Because I could give a flyin (edited - language) less what people and society think of me!:D. If they don't like me because I drive a "Girly" truck, then they can buy me a newer, bigger one, or kiss my (edited: Admin - please see this forums guidelines regarding language)

I think I've said enough for the night! Just think about it in a big picture, not just what you see in your area. I think we can all agree that some people buy big honkin trucks for little to no reason. But at the same time, some people need a big truck, period.

I have seen alot of both in my area, those who don't need them and those who work the crap out of them. I would love to have a SRW F-350 PSD or V-10, do I need it, no but they look d@#$ good. Now if I can just find the money for one. :-X06

The people with SDs around here that don't work them FAR outweigh those that do. Most of those that do could do it with an F150.

But buy what you want. I will.

Mike

Im starting to think i might need a deisel full sized. I will tow a truck to off road events this summer but since i only have cash to opperate one truck it will also be my DD. I like to think this is the same deal with alot of SD owners and such. I know it is in my neighborhood back home. Theres a few guys that drive thir trucks day in and day out but come the weekend they are draggin the bumpers thier so loaded down it seems. 8D

I look at it this way I would rather have a truck that is over kill 99% of the time than have one that isn't enough that remaining 1% of the time when the difference could be a life or death situation.

It's hard to admit that you need Viagra.

This thread has gotten so far of track,

Nissan idea, is to complete with regular cab or V-6 models because they wanted to go for the heart of the market, that being where the growth was, and that was King Cab and Crew Cab, they are also trying to capture where their current vehicle fall short and that is a more heavier duty truck.
If the market is going more heavier duty truck, then that where manufactures of vehicles will try to sell their product. It not Ford, Chevy or Dodge fault for selling heavy duty truck, its not consumers fault for wanting them. If a consumer feels they need a super duty or a heavy duty truck, then that his choice.

The titan trucks don't appeal to me with that bumper which cover half of the front of the truck. I perfer the SuperDuty line which have more style and I love the solid front axle.
-Buck-

I could not care less what Nissan comes out with. I love my Fords and even if verybody else was buying Nissans I would still buy Ford. It has nothing to do with where they are built.Mr. Jones the profit does not all go to a foreign country. Much of it is reinvested right back here in the USA to build more factories and to set up more RD facilities. This adds to the companies overall net worth who's corporate office is overseas, but much of the real cash stays here. The rest gets devided up among investors all around the world including the USA. As for Ford and Chevy closing down plants because profits are down not exactly true. They are closing plants because sales are down. If they had properly read the market they would of seen the downward turn in sales and could have done cut backs before it affected their profits. The foriegn companies including DC now seem to be able to read the market, make predictions, and respond better and faster than Ford and GM. They are making a profit not because they make a better product, but because they are just better at doing business.

No, not really.

Exactly the point that I and others were trying to make in response to earlier posts.

Nissan doesn't need a 3500 because few buyers need a 3500. What buyers want is a big, beefy, manly-looking truck, a "want" that a 2500 serves quite well.

I think you guys should post a poll down in the SD forum to see what people are actually using these trucks for! I myself bought my F250 before I had anything to tow, yes I owned it for 9 months and the largest load it towed was a couple fo boats, I could have done it with a ranger! On the other hand I also knew that I would be buying a house, a camper, a tractor and few other things that would require at least an F250, yeh and now I wish I would have gotten an F350 so I would be legal! Maybe you guys don't realize that to be legal most poeple that are driving F250s and F350s should probably have F450s and F550s.

Heck my F250 is "legaly" rated to for 8800lbs GVWR and a GCWR of around 17k lbs. Well when I hook the camper and boat up I cross the scale just under 17k Lbs and I'm over on my GVWR!! The truck wieghs 7100lbs with no cargo. by the time I load up everything, get the wife, the dog, coolers, fire wood, the grill & extra propane tanks, and extra fuel for the boat ect ect I'm over my 1700lbs of cargo wieght!! Luckly the HPs don't harass the weekend warriors otherwise there would be a whole lot of people sitting on the side of the raod unhooking there trailors! Look at some of the toy boxes, the pin wieghts on some of those get into the 1500-2500lb range wich leaves no room to add cargo or passengers if these people want to be legal! The bobcat and trailor in my gallery towed great with my F250 V10 but a half ton would have struggled! Same goes for my boat and camper together and for that matter when I moved my tractor last fall I would have had to barrow a truck to do the job!

Now, I only drive my F250 6000 miles/year and I drive a Lumina as my commuter car, but 3-4k of those miles I put on I couldn't have anything less than what I have, out of the other 2000 or so 1000-1200 are thing I would need a full size truck for leaving only a 1000 or so miles that my truck is driven as a car! to all your own but I need my truck a lot more than you need a GTO, a focus could get you more place than your GTO can so its not a matter of need! I guess in the end I didn't need a boat or a camper, and I didn't need a house which would alleiviate the need for the skidsteer, the trailor, the tractor and a whole lot of what I haul from town back and forth. So when its all said and done nothing is really a need, if we lived by needs we would still live only to hunt for food, and live in caves because thats all you really NEED to survive!! Leave poeple alone and son't make assumptions when you don't know what your talking about!

I'm not a fan of the foriegn products but if it were to turn out to be a supirior product I'd have to look next time I'm in the market. On the other hand it would have to be hands down a better product without a reasonable doubt in my mind before "I" would buy it! The other thing is competition is good for the market, if they build a better product it will force the big three to tighten up the stirups and crack down on the things there getting beat by, which in the end turns into a better product line for us to choose from!

My GTO cost about the same as a 4 cylinder Camry or an Accord (yes, really). So you do the math. What would you rather drive everyday?

Camry . . . GTO? Camry . . . . GTO?

Wow. That's a tough call.

And no, I don't need it, and never said that I did. But let's look at the question again.

Camry . . . GTO? Camry . . . GTO?

Do you see "STUPID" written on my forehead?

I won't ansewer that in fear of getting this thread shut down but since you posted this earlier, if the shoe fits...................

I found this article 2day at Ford.com: http://media.ford.com/newsroom/featu...?release=22669

Scroll down to the middle of the page where it talks about a 3.6L diesel possibly going to be available for the F-150 and Expedition. I'm not trying to start something but showing that Ford isn't gonna sit around and watch the imports take the truck market away from them, IMO.

If it's true I'll be one of the first ones in line to buy a diesel powered Expedition. I would love to see Ford start being pro-active again and bring some inovation to the market.