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skilife17 01-13-2006 01:15 PM

Cruise control update
 
Just got a call from the dealership and they told me parts were in. They said to allow 3-4 hours to put in. I'm just wondering how long it will actually be since some of you have had the jumper installed and if it did take 3 hours to do.

NASA_Hokie 01-13-2006 02:21 PM

Mine took 15 minutes. Just installed the new harness, didn't replace the switch itself.

skilife17 01-13-2006 02:43 PM

NASA_HokieCould it take 3 hours due to that I live in Minn. I read in other posts that some guys had the harness and switch replaced and it only was 45 min.

7700Rob 01-14-2006 12:35 AM

Depending on where in Minn. you live, it might take 2 1/2 hours for the truck to thaw.

Racerguy 01-14-2006 12:40 AM

Ford pays us .2 of an hour for the recall.....12 minutes.
It takes about 2 minutes to actually do the job, a few minutes in the parts dept to get the kit, a few minutes to bring in the truck, a few minutes to take it back out, a minute or so to write our story on the repair order.
The reason that most shops say it will take a few hours to do it is because of scheduling. Just like going to the doctor. You have an appointment for 10 am but you don't actualy get in til 11 because he had a couple other patients that took longer than planned.

ford390gashog 01-14-2006 03:46 AM

it is very simple a blind monkey could do it. but i think the time ford gives of 12 mins is BS they should at least give you 15 or 20

preppypyro 01-14-2006 07:56 AM

So the update, is it a in line fuse, like I have heard it was? Or is ford actually fixing it?

projectSHO89 01-14-2006 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by preppypyro
So the update, is it a in line fuse, like I have heard it was? Or is ford actually fixing it?

An inline fuse link, not a fuse.

If it blows, you get to pay to fix it.

Steve

scottpb33 01-14-2006 11:34 AM

Ok, I got the recall notice, but what is the actual problem. I just noticed the other day that my crusie control does not work, it did? Granted I put in a heater core not to long ago, but I believe it was still working after? Can't remember, to many cars. I checked the fuse, its ok, so I'm looking on this web site as usual, again, for some brilliant person to guide me in the direction they have already been :) .

Email me with any ideas

Scottpb33@hotmail.com

Thanks!

LxMan1 01-14-2006 09:51 PM

Check the switch on the master cylinder. Remove the plug, if it is wet inside, leave it unhooked and go to the dealer asap.

scottpb33 01-15-2006 06:47 AM

Thanks, did not look wet, called the local dealer. Truck is going in on Saturday for recall. Do you think that the cable (recall) has anything to do with the cruise control not working?

Scott

projectSHO89 01-15-2006 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by scottpb33
Thanks, did not look wet, called the local dealer. Truck is going in on Saturday for recall. Do you think that the cable (recall) has anything to do with the cruise control not working?

Scott

Probably.

If the fuse link blows or the switch is open, power is removed from the cruise system.

Steve

4trax 01-15-2006 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by preppypyro
So the update, is it a in line fuse, like I have heard it was? Or is ford actually fixing it?

NO! Ford is not stepping up to plate and correcting the problem they are just going around the problem. Kinda like a. Well it is a jerryrig set up. (I could call it other things but that would be racial some say). There way of thinking is go around the tree that's laying in the driveway instead of removing it and doing it the correct way. I was pissed when my sons was done and he come home with like that. :-fire :-fire :-fire

swright_47 01-16-2006 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by LxMan1
Check the switch on the master cylinder. Remove the plug, if it is wet inside, leave it unhooked and go to the dealer asap.

I'm going to the dealer today,, my switch on the master cylinder is wet. Why is it wet and how do I get to dry? Thanks

92merc 01-16-2006 12:18 PM

swright_47, if your switch is wet, that means a diaphram inside the switch itself has failed and is allowing brake fluid to weep past it an into the electrical portion of the switch. This switch has a constant power feed and is connected to a circuit with a 20amp fuse. So this allows it plenty of power to start a short circuit and keep the power flowing long enough to start the brake fluid on fire. The fire would get big enough and start wicking the brake fluid out of the MC area and onto the engine area, which starts a bigger fire. The poof! Your truck and any garage along with it may go up in flames.

This is basically wht the recall is covering. It puts an inline fuse to the hot circuit of the cruise switch on the MC. So if the switch does fail, you just loose power to the cruise control circuit when this new fuse blows.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the way Ford is fixing it. If you look at how many vehicles have actually gone up in flames, it's a quick and cheap way to work the issue that hasn't happened on that many vehicles. My 2003 Screw isn't technically in the recall notice. But guess what I'll be installing this summer? Installing a quick blow 5 amp inline with the cruise circuit. Cheap insurance on my part I figure.

oldsub86 01-16-2006 10:29 PM

I just bought the kit with the new switch and harness for $25 bucks and put it in myself. Took about 10 minutes. No problem. Better than the recall that doesn't change the switch. I hear the whole idea was just to get owners to come back to the dealership with their trucks in the hope that they would decide that was a good place for service.

preppypyro 01-17-2006 07:47 AM

Ferget it for me. I guess if my truck burns down or whatever, I will collect insurance and buy a different truck. Kinda a piss off that ford wont fix the problem correctly.

skilife17 01-17-2006 02:01 PM

Got cruise control fixed they told me about an hour. All they installed was the fused link.

fxrscotty 01-17-2006 06:51 PM

Had mine done today they never even had the truck inside did it in the yard. couple of minits. Scotty.

Patatoe1 01-17-2006 07:45 PM

Could someone post a picture of what the completed fix looks like. I brought my truck into a Ford dealer down in Florida (live in Chicago) and they went ahead and fixed it for me.

But when I opened the hood when I got back to my place there is something with twisty-ties and what looks to be electrical taple wrapped around something. Dont know if this is what its supposed to look like, so a picture from someone one help.

Thanks

Racerguy 01-17-2006 07:49 PM

Usually the cable ties hold the new jumper wire/fuse assembly to the cruise control cable. It really doesn't look very good but that's how Ford designed it.

BillyBob69 01-18-2006 09:35 AM

I received my notice about a month ago stating the parts would not be available now until February...but I also just called the dealer and he has the parts in stock. Don't believe everything you read. Call your dealer. I'm getting mine done today at lunch.

4Trax...why is it you feel that Ford is not doing it right? A fuse that blows in case of probs is pretty standard for any electrical circuit. Just my opinion, but I would rather have a fuse to replace instead of a harness, switch or the way these are designed, the master Cylinder.

swright_47 01-18-2006 03:27 PM

I just had mine replaced on Monday. If the switch is faulty, ie wet from brake fluid they go ahead and replace it also. Mine was wet got it replaced, the whole thing took only 20-25 minutes. It cured my problem of blowing the abs fuse (#13). :) :) :)

Ice Cold 01-18-2006 06:02 PM

Do you think the dealer would give me the kit and let me install it? Don't really like other mechanics touching my vehicles.

BillyBob69 01-18-2006 06:25 PM

Not if you want to get it for free. They have to do it for the "record". If you want to install the part yourself....then you will have to pay for it.

scottpb33 01-22-2006 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by BillyBob69
I received my notice about a month ago stating the parts would not be available now until February...but I also just called the dealer and he has the parts in stock. Don't believe everything you read. Call your dealer. I'm getting mine done today at lunch.

4Trax...why is it you feel that Ford is not doing it right? A fuse that blows in case of probs is pretty standard for any electrical circuit. Just my opinion, but I would rather have a fuse to replace instead of a harness, switch or the way these are designed, the master Cylinder.

Got mine installed on Saturday, 10 minutes, not a big deal. Thought that may have been the problem with the Cruise Control not working. Still not working, it was, I may have accidently did something when putting in the heater core, not sure any ideas, please email me. Scottpb33@hotmail.com

BillyBob69 01-22-2006 11:39 AM

Since you have alot to remove and unplug in changing the heater core, I would go back through all the harnesses to make sure they are all connected correctly. Also fuses, buth under the dash and under the hood.

scottpb33 01-22-2006 06:01 PM

I did not have to remove the dash completely, followed another guys document provided on this site, worked out really good. I think I checked the fuses and they were good. I wondering if the sensor on top of the master cylinder is bad, not sure if there is way to check.

Thanks

BillyBob69 01-22-2006 09:00 PM

I dont know of a way to check it unless someone else chimes in. If you don't get anything, try starting another thread for that. Maybe it will get someone attention that has the answer....sorry. That or see if one of your friends that has the same setup for the cruise will let you swap just to check it.

97F260LD 03-25-2006 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Ice Cold
Do you think the dealer would give me the kit and let me install it? Don't really like other mechanics touching my vehicles.

They will give it to you if you pay for it, if you don't want to pay you have to make an appointment and they will install it. Ford policy.

Still waiting for Ford to announce the part is in stock, I don't really care since I regularly check the connection to make sure its dry.

I don't like others working on my truck either, I live in Pennsylvania which has a annual inspection and they pull the wheels to check the brakes. I have to retorque the lug nuts every time, they always overtighten the lugs. Also the center caps are usually not replaced properly.

thecardoc 03-26-2006 09:48 PM

Why not buy the part from FORD, fix it your self ,then seek reimursement for parts AND
labor as if you had the repair done proir to the recall . Your recall letter even states you can do this if repair had already been done prior to the recall.

Racerguy 03-27-2006 12:11 AM

Dealers have had the part in stock for a couple months now. I can't imagine a dealer still not having them.


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