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roger dowty 11-21-2005 01:48 AM

swap front clip '83 and stroker update
Looking to swap out the front clip on the bronco I'm building for my son. It's an '83 and I would like to put a 87-91 clip on it. Not sure how the doors will match up etc- not looking for another major project. I owned a couple (4) bronco's and like the front end of the '87-91 best and 80-86 least.

Still working with the windsor but will drop in a stroked cleveland someday if we get serious. Will probably go propane as well and my newly designed propane specific Stroker ('77f150)build is looking to get close to (desktop dyno) 400hp and 430tq with a roller cam and duration of 212/216 @ .050. Its a mileage build!

Kemicalburns 11-21-2005 09:30 AM

why a cleveland stroker and not a windsor stroker. parts will be cheaper

gov2mod 11-21-2005 01:11 PM

I go with Kemicalburns on the 351W engine. It can be stroked out to as large as 427 plus it's a lot lighter than a Cleveland or Modified engine. You can get plenty of horsepower out of it and actually since it's lighter you can get the same performance out of less horsepower because of the less weight. Plus you don't have to end up with the sagging front end with all that extra weight up there. As for the front clip I don't think you'll have any problems. The only differences I've noticed on the doors is the vent windows are different on the 92 and newer. I've not seen any difference between your style and the 87-91 style. I've seen the old square front Bronco's like yours with the 92-96 front ends so I know the 87-91 front ends should fit as well.

BroncoRoadKill 11-21-2005 06:29 PM

I would second the windsor, easier too find parts for to.
As for swapping front clips, the 80-86 has different fenders and the 87-96 has flared fenders. If you were to swap in a 87 and up front clip the fenders would not match tyhe rear panels and look odd, you could swap in later model quarters to and make it look right. I think auto fab did that to there 84 bronco and they swapped it all out to 92-96 body style.
Just my opinion, I love my 82. :)

justshootme84 11-21-2005 09:43 PM

BRK is right about the fenderwell openings being different style from 86 to 87-up. The clip swap is straightforward, only need to bend the rear-lower fender bolt mount. I was thinking about just cutting out the fender lips front and rear to match up, and gain more tire clearance when I put the 88 clip on my 84.

A 400HP stroker motor sounds like fun!!! The one I'm installing is a 347 c.i.d. (302).

stevef100s 11-21-2005 10:15 PM

[/QUOTE]plus it's a lot lighter than a Cleveland or Modified engine. [QUOTE]

Sorry, but no it isn't. Not unless you call 25 lbs, "a lot lighter". The 351C is smaller then the 351M/400.

gov2mod 11-21-2005 11:03 PM

Stevef100s, you are correct about the 351 Cleveland being lighter than the Modified engines and I'm sorry I lumped all of the 335 series of engines together. But since he said he had a 77F150 I assumed he was using a 351M since the 351 Cleveland was discontinued in 1975. But, I still agree with Kemicalburns about the 351W being cheaper (and more plentiful) for parts due to it was made for over 30 years after the end of the Cleveland. I still go beat around in salvage yards for parts and I still see a lot of 351W's. I can't even remember the last time I saw a Cleveland in any salvage yard. I'm not saying there aren't any Clevelands around but there's no question there aren't about a million more Windsors to pick from.

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