Pics/comparisons of the all the V10's Y-pipes
 

With all of the recent discussion of exhaust (specifically Y-pipes), I thought I'd put up some pics and give some info. Keep in mind that this is specific for the truck & SUV (sorry E-series guys). Also feel free to correct any mistakes I've made. :)

1999-2000 models came with the "rams horn" Y-pipe. It's oddly shaped and can exhibit a symptom known as "flutter". Flutter is just a noise caused by exhaust pulses traveling through the pipe. Still, the sound is kind of annoying.

For 2001-2004, Ford used a different Y-pipe that elminated (mostly) the flutter. However, this new design is extremely restrictive to flow. Personally, I'd rather have "flutter", but you can decide for yourself.

Here's a pic of the two Ford-designed Y-pipes:
http://makinhay.net/exhaust/ypipes.JPG

Not sure it shows how bad it is, but here's a close-up of the necked-down portion of the '01+ 2V 6.8L Y-pipe:
http://makinhay.net/exhaust/YNECK.JPG

Here's a pic of the Banks Powerpack "Y" compared to the 2001 Ford pipe:
http://makinhay.net/exhaust/ypipes2.JPG

Here are some pics of the '05 3-valve 6.8L Ford design. I guess the Excursion & Vans still have the 2V engine, so they may be different. Again, I'm no photographer, so I apologize for the poor pics ahead of time.

http://www.makinhay.net/exhaust/05ypipe2.JPG
http://www.makinhay.net/exhaust/05ypipe.JPG

Can't really tell because of all the heat shielding, but there aren't any severely "necked-down" areas of the piping.

I was just re-reading this and realized that I need to give some credit to Stan (Eurekaboy). I used his photo of the '99-'00 "rams horn" Y-pipe. Hope you don't mind Stan.

Excellent post, NoMo. :D This should help folks see the difference side by side.

Exlnt. I'm thinking through my options on my 2002 X right now. Probably going with the Banks. I bought my X used, already equipped with brake contrller and air bags, so I got to wondering if by chance that y pipe had been swapped out. No such luck. It is amazing how restrictive it is. Your pix are a great idea, but don't do the factory pipe the injustice it deserves. The restriction is not really visible. Any chance of a closeup of that section? If not, cool. I'm a professional photographer and when mine comes out, I'll shoot some pix. Thanks again for the side by side.

Sorry NoMo, I hadn't looked at the other images. It does show the restriction. Thanks.

Do they use the same restrictive y-pipe on 5.4's? 2000 f150 more specifically.

Maybe i'll have to convice my dad to upgrade the y pipe on the 01 v10 he just bough.

Best and most informative post I have seen in a while GREAT JOB :-X22 Man I want to do it can you fill the differance???

Cant wait for the 05 pics. Great post!!

Great pics boy how things have changed from the earlier years

Im guessing the Ford Racing headers mate right up with the downpipes that go to that Y or will I have to get new pieces? Does anyone know? Im talking about the 05

http://www.makinhay.net/exhaust/05ypipe.JPG

Now THAT'S a Y-pipe! :D

Thread title updated to help others find it later...

Good idea on changing the title! As you can tell, I didn't put much thought into it. :)

Ken, can you also merge my posts so that the links are all in one location? Feel free to edit however you deem necessary.

Nice pics! Are those stock Y-Pipes? I have a 2006, do you know if they are the same?

That is the factory Y-pipe for '05. I suspect the '06 models to be the same, but you'll have to look under your truck to be sure. IF your Y-pipe is different, please post a pic so we'll have that version too. :)

I will post a pic, probably later this week, I am a wimp and don't want to crawl under my rig with 103 degrees temp the asphalt feels like about 150, I know because I changed out my battery harness on my 95 bronco 4 days ago. no fun. But thursday I will be able to increase my courage with cold beer.

the headers from ford racing "shorties" bolt right up to the stock front pipes. down to the 2 into 1 collector nomo photo'd out into 3 inch all the way back

cold beer! i just got home from moving a 36 foot open boat up the hudson river , coffee needed here. temp on the river was 60 .

NoMO I had the original pipe on my DRW replaced by ford with the newer style to eliminate the flutter. I think that the 2001 pipe gave the truck a little more low end torque, they also reprogrammed the computer with the 2001 program at the same time so knows for sure. My SRW still has the old style pipe and I would rather have the new style in it just for the noise factor.

I really like the new system on the 05 and newer much better design.

Great post

Denny

NoMo great post! Do you think the factory ram style y-pipe on my 99 needs to be changed? Monsta I asked this same question to you on my other post so an answer from either of you would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the great info!

Thanks for merging those posts Ken. I think it'll make things easier to read.

Ya know rvpuller... while most everyone complained about the restricted design, I don't remember an uproar about a loss of power. Ford must have had the engineers working overtime to come up with that funky design. And there had to be a reason for all those bends & crimps. Still, you can look at it and see that there has to be a better way. ;)

duallyman- if you don't have (and not all trucks do) or don't mind "flutter" then just keep what you have. To me, it looks like the "rams horn" design is an attempt to equalize the length of pipe coming of each manifold. In theory, this is a good thing. :)

http://www.makinhay.net/exhaust/05ypipe2.JPG

The restriction is on both sides of the cat. Look jut above the O2 sensor. See how the pipe dips down? That is about 2" or less. :rolleyes:

captchas, how bout some pics of the headers? How was the install? :-D

Why couldn't I have ripped off my exhaust 4-wheeling this Labor Day weekend in Upstate NY, instead of running over a branch and having it come up and hit my fender?

I coulda gotten a new y-pipe and muffler for what it's going to cost to fix the fender ;)

art k.

Art - I hear you on that one. I have done more body damage wheeling than mechanical. I once got back home from an all day wheeling event and had a tree trunk wedged up between my frame and part of my suspension and gas tank. No damage other than I thought at one point I was going to need a chainsaw to get it out.

Lucky for me the Range Rover is a wheeler so I don't care about the body damage on it. My SD is a work truck, but so far I have been able to keep that fairly nice considering all the plowing and throwing junk in the bed.

Anyone have the part number of the "new" ford Ypipe that I can retrofit on my 2000 V10?

I know I am going to pay throught the nose but I have a big credit at my dealers parts counter and need to burn it up.

schrade

You are not going to like this answer

Get a local exhaust house to fab a well designed real "Y" in place of your "T"

The 2005 system starts from two totally redesigned headers, drops to two micro sized cats with O2 sensors before and after the little cats... then the piping drops down to mate into the two to one collector that goes all the way back to the muffler

Charlie is going to chime in a little while and tell you he paid well over 500 dollars to put his system BACK TO STOCK after experimenting with various headers and systems.

Only part from Ford you could buy that will marry up with your giant cat in the center is the two to one piece flowing to the rear and you would have to fab up the header to collector pipes...

Now then if your credit due to you is very high you might consider the entire system including the headers...they will bolt right into any 99 to present superduty. OTOH getting the 4 O2 sensors to properly work with your PCM will be a challenge

sounds too hard for a "sales guy" type like me. Guess I will spend the credit on something else. Already did the towing mirrors? Any other suggestion on how to spend $500 at the Ford Dealership parts counter? I know lots of Mercon :) and plugs and boots right?

2000 2v V10

Trany flush and differential fluid change and thrust angel alignment come to mind as pricy and good to do evey now and then

I have a 2002 V-10. It may have the same Y pipe that you have. I did the Y pipe change for around $150.00. You can buy the Y pipe from Summitracing and have a good muffler shop do the work. My friend at the muffler shop did it for around $100.00. Check out my gallery for pics of Y pipe and install.

RVpuller on here had is updated to the new pipe. I know the newer pipe like on my 2003 hooks up to the Cat in-front of the crossmember. I think the older y-pipes hook up to the cat after the crossmember. So I'm not sure how the newer one hooks up to the cat on an older truck.

yes the 06 models are the same....at least mine is

I believe that all you will have to do is get a Y pipe and extension pipe (Y pipe to Cat) for a late production 2001 or later and it will bolt right in. They went to the newer style in late 01.

Ford changed mine to get ride of the exhaust flutter under warranty not the lose shields or inspection cover but the original flutter in the early V10 motor.

Denny

My 2001 has the stock Y-pipe which is the "Ram's Horn" style, however, it doesn't have the necked down areas that I always see when people are talking Y-pipes. Occasionally I consider having it modified but the truck runs so good, sounds good, tows great and gets good MPG that I just can't bring myself to screw with it.

I have good pics of your Y pipe in my gallery. It also shows the new Y pipe from summitracing that I had installed.

Thread # 11, is that a factory 05 Y pipe? Could it be retrofitted to an 01 V10 F 250 2 wheel drive or are the exhaust manifolds different?

The mainfolds are quite different. Best bet would be to use the Flowmaster Y collector or Stan's. The FM one is a lot cheaper, though.

AGREED!!! Very nice OEM style on the new V10 3v.


biz
:-X22

on the ground
 

if this works,hers some shots of a 05 up set up on the ground the whole thing flows very well. and costs $1285.00 to replace,
heres also a shot of the ford raceing shorty headers on mine now


https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...id=135624&.jpg

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...id=135625&.jpg


https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...id=135626&.jpg

Cap'n-
If you want, send me those pics and I'll post them on my site along with the other models.

Maybe I was dreaming but didn't the pipes run down the drivers side when the 3V first came out.

Denny