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sancochojoe 05-04-2005 07:34 AM

Who sells replacement bolts for door hinges?
 
I'm looking for the three bolts per hinge that are mounted to the cab, 48-51.
Any idea who sells them? Thanks.

shorttop50 05-04-2005 08:59 AM

I bought mine at a local bolt & screw supply. If you dont have one near try a Lowes home improvement store they have a large selection of bolts & screws in hardware section

Jag Red 54 05-04-2005 09:50 AM

I had the same want on my 54. I went to Ace, Osh, Lowes, Napa and finally just had to R&R the old ones. The idea of a specialty fastener store sounds good. The guy at Napa told me that they were a special automotive type thread. :mad: Good luck and let us know if you find a source. Jag

bobbytnm 05-04-2005 10:22 AM

I spent yesterday driving around my city looking for some exhaust manifold bolts, nothing fancy, just a 3/8-16 flange bolt. I tried the hardware stores, napa, etc. then I went to a couple of specialty fastener stores.....nothing. Everyone wanted to sell me a regular bolt and a washer.
Then I remembered a place where I used to get alot of materials and supplies from and tried them online....BINGO (and no minimum order)

They are McMaster-Carr, here is their link http://www.mcmaster.com/


Here is another link to a fastener supplier that is local but has a minimum purhsase requirement.
http://www.barnhillbolt.com/ I used to buy alot form them also but mainly for structural applications

Good luck on locating the bolts

Bobby

sancochojoe 05-05-2005 09:41 AM

I contacted http://www.mcmaster.com and even emailed them the picture
of the bolts, but they do not have anything like them.

Randy Jack 05-05-2005 09:48 AM

Sanco -

There is a store near me that has been a lifesaver, especially where hardware is concerned. You name it - they got it - plated, stainless, etc. Try the website below. They have always been very helpful.

http://www.mcfadden-dale.com/

bobbytnm 05-05-2005 10:17 AM

Sancho,
I'm sorry to hear that. I managed to get the bolts I needed yesterday from them. I haven't taken my hinges off of the truck (yet) but I'll probably have to in the near future to swap out my rusty doors. Aren't they just big philips head screws?

Good luck

Bobby

sancochojoe 05-05-2005 10:36 AM

The bolts seem simple enough. here are the pics

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...oid=76161&.jpg

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...oid=76162&.jpg

bobbytnm 05-05-2005 10:45 AM

Ah, I see. I take it that the part that looks like a lock washer is part of the screw. That is probably why no one has them.
Would using a regular screw with locktite work instead?

Bobby

Randy Jack 05-05-2005 11:16 AM

Joe -

I can't measure one of those screws right now, but I think they are 5/16 diameter. All the screws/bolts that I have run accross on my Effie have been fine threads. With that in mind...

I have a McMaster Carr catalog. I don't know who you talked to there, but page 2834 shows a 5/16 ID countersunk external tooth lock washer in 410 cres (p/n 90069030 - $36.24/1000). Use that with a 5/16-24 X 5/8 long flathead screw (phillips or allen head - cres) and you are in business.

Jag Red 54 05-05-2005 11:20 AM

The washers are readily available. I have seem them at Ace Hardware. The problem on my 54 bolts, and maybe the F-1's as well, is that the threads are a special automotive type. The pitch and thread count are slightly different than fine threads today. Evidently, this thread is common on old vehicles, but not on newer models. Jag :-tap

PS: We entered at the same time Randy. I hope you are right and it's an easy find. Jag

bobbytnm 05-05-2005 11:40 AM

If the threads are close enough it seems like you'd be able to run a thread chaser or a tap down them and "convince and cojole" them into accepting the newer bolts.
I just looked at McMaster-Carr also and found another external countersunk loock washer PN#90069A130 $7.41 for a package of 100

As I said, this is interesting to me because I know I'm facing the same prooblem in the near future

Good luck

Bobby

sancochojoe 05-05-2005 02:57 PM

I agree. The washer description states "Washer teeth lock into heads of 82° flat- and oval-head screws to prevent loosening."
So I will get the oval-head screws so it can sit perfectly in the plate.
McMaster-Carr does sell the oval-heads.
And like you bobbytnm, I think when they saw the washer around the bolt, they must have assumed it was all one piece.

Motor Haven has a fastener kit for everypart of the truck for $200, and it states it has hinge bolts with the kit. I asked for details, and they said the hinge bolt heads are allen style. Could you get a good tight fit using an allen.

Which would you prefer? and allen head or phillips, especially if you have to take it off in the future.

bobbytnm 05-05-2005 03:19 PM

If you're going for authenticity then the phillips head would look correct. That $200 kit might be just the thing if you're going for a restoration. I think that with the allen head you would be able to apply more torque to the screw as the driver has less of a tendency to cam-out of the screw.

I sure wish I could wave my magic wand around while screaming out "abra-ca-dabra" or "ala-beem-za-beem" or "ala-kazam" or any other magical incantation and have the local Ace hardware (within a mile of the house) carry all of the oddball fasteners, fittings, and other oddities that these old trucks require.

Good luck

Bobby

AXracer 05-06-2005 07:59 AM

AFAIK they are std 5/16 24 thread bolts. I haven't had to replace any, but that's what Ford used on most of my truck, I wouldn't expect they used anything "special" Ol Henry was a known tightwad. Those bolts don't usually wear out and were the same for many years, so a trip to your local walk around bone-yard with a large phillips screwdriver should yield a handful of them. Tip: take one or two out of each hinge on several vehicles to avoid having to handle a heavy door. I'd expect car doors used the same bolts. If I had the choice I'd opt for the allen head replacements.


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