Anyone else HATE the antilock breaks on the SDs?
 

I have a 2003 F-250 SD, and I personally think the ABS kicks in WAY to soon, to the point that if I have to stop short, the truck would easily stop if ABS didnt kick in, instead of getting to close for comfort to the car in front of me. I do leave a TON of space now, but man, I still hate that damn ABS!

so find the absmodule fuse and pull it out you get the annoying abs light but it will work just check that it dosent control anything else my t bird doesnt have trac control now

There must be a way to disable it for those of us who still have a brain.

Don't stomp on the brakes then and they will not kick in. Slowly press down the brakes until you want to stop then push all the way. I have not had a problem. Remember you have alot of truck to stop so best have the ability just in case you need it.

I would not pull the fuse if I was you. Should you have an accident you would be at fault since you tampered with the safety system.

The ABS cannot make your stopping distances and greater than they normally would be without it. My 2003 F250 SD stops great! And I am a fast driver. I wouldn't fool with it.

it may seem that way, but the abs can stop the truck in shorter distance than a person could without it.

i belive in the theory that it helps.. but after your put bigger tires on, you change the equation the computer uses... anyway i never had any problems stock.. but soon after my lift and tires.. i almost rear ended someone with the pedal all the way to the floor.. i had 14k miles on my truck.. i took the 60amp fuse under the hood out and put an american flag sticker over the dash "ABS" light... ive been ABS'Less now with 47k on the truck.. and its stops allot better... i wont be going back.. now if i mash the pedal as hard as i can.. it takes everybit the brakes have to start chirping my 36" tires..... they only lock up if i REALLY nail the brakes...... Its a personal preferance i guess... im a control freak....its my job.... with those darn things i feel control'Less. ABS'less for over two years and could not be happier
JJ

It IS possible for ABS to INCREASE stopping distance. I've had it happen several times in different vehicles where it will almost be stopped, and something will cause the abs to kick. It has done it in dry weather, and most often I have a problem with it in snowy or rainy conditions where I will be almost stopped and brrrrrppp, the abs will go nuts and I'll roll into the intersection no matter what I do. If the wheels HAD locked, I would have slid a very very short distance if at all. Its just something you have to be aware of. Once I had to stop quick and was almost stopped in an escort gt and the abs cycled once right at the end and I bounced into the back of a truck. No damage to the GT but bent the s-10 bumper, very annoying.

FWIW, if you run into someone its going to be your fault with or without abs. I agree abs has its place, but sometimes it seems over agressive.

I was told if you can recalibrate the ABS along with your speedo... I had mine done when I put on some 35"s, and never had a problem.

I never noticed any problems with my Sd,,with the ABS, but I also had only stock wheels and tires on
,,,,,,,,,,Mark

You had your speedo recalculated...sooo did i, it has nothing to do with the abs equation... the speedo does work w/ the abs computer though.. they are connected no doubt... I dont know if you tow much.. but i do..ALL the time.... once you got a 10k trailer behind ya.. youll notice slight differances in braking performance..ive tried it both ways.. And i went with what works better..disconnected... If your into 4x4'n at all.... i do slow rock trails and such.. youd find that you cant control your vehicle on slippery downslopes either.. if you need to lock and hold your brakes and your on a somewhat loose surface the tires will start rolling to avoind lockin up and it leads to more momentum in the wrong direction... Bottom line ABS is better for the Masses..But not for me.
JJ


Im not going to try to convince anyone to disconnect.... Id actually Recommend you leave it be.... BUT if your one of many that is not happy with the performance of the superduty brakes... just for a test.. pull the 60amp under the hood and take a test drive.... its a entire new beast, the brakes become much more firm and responsive

yea, the basic principle is not necesarily to allow you to stop faster, but to allow you to maintain static friction with the ground, so that you will b e able to brake and steer to avoid collision. without abs, if you lock up your front tires, you cannot steer so well, and without rear abs, its more likely to want to have the rear end come around. you see, the kinetic friction, or tires sliding against pavement, as opposed ot static friction, or your tires rolling as usual, is less. there fore, you could theoretically stop faster with abs, but there are too many things to be brought into play and the computer to calculate for it to work properly every time, and then big tires throw it off even more. I think its a great idea for every idiot ... specifically soccer moms and teenage female drivers here in jersey who like to slid off the road and die (three deaths this winter in my area of high school females rushing to school) ... but for us automobile afficionados who know whats going on, we dont need them. Cop cars dont have them (or at least didnt used to) because they are trained to stop a car in those conditions without abs. so basically, its your personal prefference, learn how to use them, or disconect. I havnt noticed a problem yet with my super duty, but i hated them on my bronco.

that statement is totally untrue.. .do some reaserch there is not any resource that will claim shorter stopping distances.(those were overly positive statements from car companies when these systems first came out). .....And the accurate resources will state up front "stopping on dry pavemtent will be CLOSE to std brakes... all other surfaces ABS will take considerable more distance".. ABS was designed to allow directional control of the vehicle under braking...nothing else....It equates to longer stopping distance...There is no need to argue this point between FTE members.. do the reaserch for yourself if the topic intrests you.

i did some research mabe you ought ta take a look at it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/anti-lock_brake

www.davewin.com/tech/anti-lock-brakes.shtml

wow i believe the are claiming shorter stopping distances

i will agree on snow, slush and lose dirt it can increase stopping distances

A real world example:

3 weeks ago i'm towing the boat in a rainstorm and come around a blind turn. The traffic is dead stopped in front of me due to an overturned truck. I slam the brakes on and abs kicks in (boat trailer is wobbling behind me) to stop the beast, boat and me at 55 mph IN A CURVE, IN THE RAIN to a solid stop. Now ABS can be a pain in gravel, or when a truck "unloads" over a bump or railroad track, but it saved my butt that day. :cool: