1966 F100 Short Bed Styleside Metal/Body/Paint Work
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I just started another '66 F100 short bed project at the shop, this time it'll be a mild custom. I'll only be doing the metal, body, and paint work instead of a full build like the last one ('66 F100 Stock Restoration).
I'll be fixing the rust, correcting the panel fit and gaps like the last truck, shaving some items on the dash, mocking up a Vintage Air evaporator, smoothing the firewall, adding spots for A/C vents, and painting the truck. Here is the truck. It seems to be pretty solid overall other than the bed floor and door bottoms; definitely better than the other truck we restored. Attachment 283736 Attachment 283737 Attachment 283738 Attachment 283739 Attachment 283740 Attachment 283741 Attachment 283742 Attachment 283743 Attachment 283744 Attachment 283745 Attachment 283746 Attachment 283747 Attachment 283748 |
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Subscribed. Did someone add reverse lights?
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You do have a nice starting point. Nice Kight Rider steering wheel
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Are the clutch and brake pedal welded together? Glad you are back!
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This will be fun to watch. I was in competition with you when I was doing mine. Amature against professional kind of thing. :)
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Cool, I'll follow along. I'm sure you'll get this one finished and I'll still be working on mine...
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A great canvas to start on. I'll be doing similar on my dad's soon.
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Originally Posted by KO1960
(Post 18577521)
Subscribed. Did someone add reverse lights?
Originally Posted by RangerMercMan
(Post 18577595)
You do have a nice starting point. Nice Kight Rider steering wheel
Originally Posted by 1armbanditrrt
(Post 18577892)
Are the clutch and brake pedal welded together? Glad you are back!
Sean
Originally Posted by skidoorulz
(Post 18578140)
This will be fun to watch. I was in competition with you when I was doing mine. Amature against professional kind of thing. :)
Originally Posted by cookster351
(Post 18578722)
Cool, I'll follow along. I'm sure you'll get this one finished and I'll still be working on mine...
Originally Posted by jjriley97
(Post 18578792)
A great canvas to start on. I'll be doing similar on my dad's soon.
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First update. I took everything apart that wasn't needed to make it run. All of the small parts were bagged and labeled so reassembly will be easier. I'll drive it around to one of the rear shop stalls tomorrow and finish dissasembly.
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Teardown is finished. I'll finish removing the seam sealer and start blasting pieces next week.
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I have the bed floor and header panel out now, and have blasted around the peremeter to prepare for welding the new floor in. A 2008 Super Duty floor is the same dimensions so we ordered one to use, along with a new header panel and front sill from Carolina Classics. The rear sill isn't available so I'll have to repair and straighten it.
Attachment 283651 Attachment 283652 The seam sealer was difficut to remove by blasting so I used a dremel to cut it out. Attachment 283653 New floor and header. Attachment 283654 Attachment 283655 Edges blasted to prep for repair work and new panels. Attachment 283656 Attachment 283657 Attachment 283658 Attachment 283659 |
Going to be a nice one.
What was up with the red light on the radiator support. Volunteer fire dept? |
Originally Posted by 78ShortBed-
(Post 18593787)
Going to be a nice one.
What was up with the red light on the radiator support. Volunteer fire dept? |
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The four corner panels were all bent and sunk in so I started straightening those this morning. This was the driver side rear panel.
Attachment 283628 Attachment 283629 Attachment 283630 I started with the flange, then used a socket and hammer to shrink the panel back flat. The socket "traps" the metal and lets the hammer push the metal into itself, shrinking the panel. The socket has to be bigger than the hammer head and you have to keep the hammer in the dead center of the socket or else you'll hit against the edge of the socket and stretch the metal. MP&C has info on the "donut dolly" technique in his '55 Wagon thread, post #973. 55 Wagon Progress - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network Attachment 283631 Attachment 283632 Attachment 283633 Attachment 283634 Attachment 283635 Attachment 283636 |
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Driver side front panel.
Attachment 283618 Attachment 283619 Attachment 283620 After: Attachment 283621 Attachment 283622 Attachment 283623 Attachment 283624 I also made and fitted both front corners that were rusted. Attachment 283625 Attachment 283626 Blasted and shot SPI epoxy on the two floor braces. Attachment 283627 |
You do amazing work! Thanks for sharing and offering tips. I'm taking notes.
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Maybe I can Learn Soemthing
I will follow closely. I'm doing my 62 and am having great difficulty with the body work on the top of the cab and the hood. I can't figure out how to get the "fine" waviness out of the metal. Used dollies and body hammers, tried a thin coat of filler but nothing seems to work. My first body work and have done the rest of the truck so far but these two areas are killing me.
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Amazing for sure. I urge everyone interested in metalwork to see more amazing "metal bumping" in the '55 Wagon thread you added in post #16. Thanks for that.
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Originally Posted by 65navyf100
(Post 18597028)
You do amazing work! Thanks for sharing and offering tips. I'm taking notes.
Originally Posted by oldracerjones
(Post 18599870)
I will follow closely. I'm doing my 62 and am having great difficulty with the body work on the top of the cab and the hood. I can't figure out how to get the "fine" waviness out of the metal. Used dollies and body hammers, tried a thin coat of filler but nothing seems to work. My first body work and have done the rest of the truck so far but these two areas are killing me.
You need to start with rough paper to shape the filler or high build primer. Worry about the shape first (making the panel straight and ripple free) then go back and smooth the panel with finer paper once it's shaped. Smooth paper (around 120/150 and higher) doesn't cut aggresively enougth to shape a panel properly, you're mostly just smoothing at that point. The True Blox website has a lot of good info on block sanding and it'll help even if you're not using plexiglass blocks. https://www.trueblox.com/pages/true-tips Jeff Lilly's website has some info on blocks and techniques too, but I'm not a fan of how they add foam to the surface of the block. https://www.jefflilly.com/build-tips/block-sanding/
Originally Posted by 6t6merc
(Post 18600316)
Amazing for sure. I urge everyone interested in metalwork to see more amazing "metal bumping" in the '55 Wagon thread you added in post #16. Thanks for that.
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The inside of all the panels were shot with undercoating so I scraped all of it off to prep for blasting.
Attachment 283576 Attachment 283577 Attachment 283578 After: Attachment 283579 Attachment 283580 Attachment 283581 The two center floor braces were bent so I used our tubing roller to straighten them. Attachment 283582 Attachment 283583 They were also dented around the mounting bolt holes. Attachment 283584 The truck was stripped and repainted at some time. The paint strips easily and quickly with a razor blade leaving a thin coat of primer and some spots of filler. I'll strip the primer/filler with a DA sander to avoid blasting and warping the bed sides. Attachment 283585 Attachment 283586 I test fit the front header and cross brace, the filler panels I made, and the center braces. Attachment 283587 Attachment 283588 Attachment 283589 Attachment 283590 Attachment 283591 Attachment 283592 Also cut out the rust that was on the flange that the bed floor spot welds to and welded in new metal. Attachment 283593 |
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I think you should change your user name to sheet-metal-magician
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I have straightened a lot of metal and had to shrink a lot of stretched metal over the years and I've never seen the socket and hammer technique. I am definitely going to have to give that a try!
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Been 6 days. Surely you must have done more. More please.
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Originally Posted by 78ShortBed-
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Lookin good
Originally Posted by Becky_is_a_66
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I think you should change your user name to sheet-metal-magician
Originally Posted by cookster351
(Post 18618849)
I have straightened a lot of metal and had to shrink a lot of stretched metal over the years and I've never seen the socket and hammer technique. I am definitely going to have to give that a try!
Great work as always, I have adopted several of your techniques, thanks for sharing here!
Originally Posted by skidoorulz
(Post 18619443)
Been 6 days. Surely you must have done more. More please.
I've been working on blasting the bed, inside and out and underneath, that's about 95% done. I'll work on straightening and repairing as much as I can while it's in bare metal before going back over the areas I missed with the blaster and then shooting epoxy. The seam between the upper and lower passenger side bedsides was pretty rough so I spent extra time cleaning it out with the blaster. Attachment 283489 Attachment 283490 The new F250 bed floor has stamping for a fifth wheel ball, and the owner wants to add a fuel tank under the bed with the filler cap in the bed floor. I'll cut out two sections and swap them to make the center smooth and have a stamped area around the filler cap. Attachment 283491 The rear corners had back up lights added, so I straightened the area and welded up the holes. Attachment 283492 Attachment 283493 Attachment 283494 The bedside is wavy and sunk in over the front of the wheelwell so I've started stretching the area by hammer-on dolly plannishing the area to raise the low spots. Attachment 283495 The bottom driver side behind the wheel opening had a couple creases, dents, and a torn spot on the edge of the flange. Attachment 283496 Attachment 283497 Attachment 283498 Attachment 283499 |
Nice work. I have sent you a PM
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I've seen people use Bronco wheel tubs to widen the factory tubs, and to use for trucks with raised bed floors but not for stock tub replacement so I wasn't sure that they'd work. They were only $70 shipped each so we bought one to try out and the stamping ended up being identical with only a couple details that needed attention.
The stock tubs were pretty rough so I cut them out with the plasma to get to the inner flange. Attachment 283454 Attachment 283455 For Bronco applications they had a notch cut out for the shock mount. I welded that up since the bed floor will be welded to that area of the flange. Attachment 283456 Test fit. Attachment 283457 Attachment 283458 Trimming the bottom edge to match the original shape. Attachment 283459 Attachment 283460 Couple of pinholes welded up. Attachment 283461 Attachment 283462 Attachment 283463 Attachment 283464 There were dimples in the flange area from the original spot welds so I straightened those so the new tubs would fit flush. Attachment 283465 Attachment 283466 |
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The driver side bed corner fit pretty well at the bottom but stuck out past the bedside towards the top.
Attachment 283440 Attachment 283441 I was able to reach the spot welds through the taillight opening with an extended nose grinder and carbide burr. You can see how much I moved the panel inward to make the two flanges flush. Attachment 283442 Attachment 283443 We decided to shave the stake pockets, so I cut out the flanged lip and made a filler panel that keeps and extends the seam so it looks like a factory panel. Attachment 283444 Attachment 283445 Attachment 283446 Attachment 283447 I drilled a couple holes to plug weld the filler panel's flange in place like the rest of the corner's flange. Attachment 283448 Coated the inside of the corner with epoxy before welding it shut. Attachment 283449 Finished. Attachment 283450 Attachment 283451 Attachment 283452 Attachment 283453 |
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Originally Posted by 78ShortBed-
(Post 18644171)
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Looks great Thanks! The passenger side pocket was a bit more work since the seam was crooked at the top. I rounded off an air chisel tip and used that to move the edge of the long panel over to where it should've been. Attachment 283406 Attachment 283407 After moving it over, still not perfect but much better than before. Attachment 283408 Patch made, determining the right spot to make the bend so the gap is even. Attachment 283409 Bent, fitted, and welded weld in. Attachment 283410 Attachment 283411 The front bed pockets were opened up to get back to flat metal, then were straightened, spot blasted to touch up missed areas of rust, primed, and welded shut. Attachment 283412 Attachment 283413 Attachment 283414 Attachment 283415 |
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The second wheelwell came in so I started getting it ready to install. The shock notch was welded up first, then I had to narrow the mounting flange to clear the raised lip on the inner bedside.
I scribed a line on the patch, then trimmed with tin snips for a near-exact fit with no grinding needed. This saves grinding discs and makes less dust in the shop. Attachment 283398 Attachment 283399 Attachment 283400 Attachment 283401 Difference in flange width. Attachment 283402 Attachment 283403 Attachment 283404 Attachment 283405 |
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I welded in the header panel using the original spot weld holes, but some of those were halfway off the edge of the panel so I used a copper spoon to keep the weld contained and the edge straight.
Attachment 283392 Attachment 283393 The upper seams weren't pretty from the factory and they won't really be seen once the truck is assembled. I welded them up and ground down the welds so that all of it would look decent once seam sealer is applied. Attachment 283394 Attachment 283395 Attachment 283396 Attachment 283397 |
Been 15 days since you posted anything. On vacation? :) Those welds on the front of the box were ugly. I walked in the day the body shop started to prep my box just as he started grinding those welds down. I said what are you doing? His response was this was scabbed together and I am going to fix them. I said leave them as they are that is a factory weld. But they are ugly he said. But they are original I said. They are still there.
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Originally Posted by skidoorulz
(Post 18681131)
Been 15 days since you posted anything. On vacation? :) Those welds on the front of the box were ugly. I walked in the day the body shop started to prep my box just as he started grinding those welds down. I said what are you doing? His response was this was scabbed together and I am going to fix them. I said leave them as they are that is a factory weld. But they are ugly he said. But they are original I said. They are still there.
Still working at it, did some small detailing on the wheel opening flanges. I'm about as far as I can take the bed without having the bed floor ready to go in; I don't want to start correcting the overall shape of the bed sides until everything is welded in solid. The bed floor will be making a trip to Maryland to McCartney Paint and Custom (MP&C on a ton of forums) to correct the irregular bed floor stampings. I'm going to Connecticut to buy one of my old Conquest TSi's back and will be stopping in on the way to work on the bed floor. I've already sent a sample section for him to make dies for his Lennox reciprocating machine to replicate the existing stampings in the blank areas. The wheel opening flanges, before and after. Things like this only take a few minutes with a hammer and dolly and make the bodywork go much faster. The end result looks much better also. Attachment 283322 Attachment 283323 Attachment 283324 Attachment 283325 I stripped the doors yesterday, razor blade and DA sander on the outer skin and blasted the inner panel (no finished pics yet). Started by removing the glue residue with a wire brush since the blaster doesn't strip soft coatings as easily. Attachment 283326 Attachment 283327 |
Originally Posted by theastronaut
(Post 18682220)
I'm going to Connecticut to buy one of my old Conquest TSi's back
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Originally Posted by emeraldcoupe
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gotta post some pics of it, I love those twins. they are the only imports I really like. awesome little cars
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Originally Posted by theastronaut
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These are from back when I owned it. I sold it around four years ago and it's been garaged since then until recently. It had an accident with the driver side fender and headlight door that'll need to be repaired, but it still looks like this overall.
https://i.imgur.com/XrZuf4qh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xUGhw9Mh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fn07zF5h.jpg wow, VERY nice. how many miles? that's probably the cleanest one I've ever seen. |
Originally Posted by emeraldcoupe
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wow, VERY nice. how many miles? that's probably the cleanest one I've ever seen.
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