Seams. We don't need no stinking seams. That looks CLEAN!
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Originally Posted by doug64f100
(Post 19775424)
Astronaut, sorry about your friend and his health. This last year and few months has been brutal on everyone, lasts for sure. I hope he is able to recover soon.
Thanks for the quick post and great pictures. Your work is incredible. Hands down, that is the best looking cab I have ever seen! I'd take that cab any day of the week. Certainly wish you were out here on the west coast! Take care of yourself and your buddy. Doug
Originally Posted by 1965GTFB
(Post 19775972)
Seams. We don't need no stinking seams. That looks CLEAN!
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The new roof skin needed a flange turned to mount it to the drip rails, so I folded the edge about 3/8" wide.
Attachment 280291 Vice Grip pads had the right diameter so I used those to hammer against in the front corners. Attachment 280292 Attachment 280293 Didn't take pics, but the roof was blasted where necessary and the outside was stripped by soaking the paint in lacquer thinner covered with plastic, then 95% of the old paint scraped off easily with a razor blade. Attachment 280294 After stripping there were some dents to fix. I used wax and grease remover to make the surface reflective, and the overhead light's reflection as an indicator to show the damage for pics. I used a hammer/dolly, shrinking disk, and plexiglass sanding block to find the high/low spots. Attachment 280295 Attachment 280296 After initial straightening- overall shape is correct but was still wavy/choppy from smaller imperfections. Next few pics are from a few rounds of hammer/dolly and shrinking disk work. The shrinking disk really speeds up this process by shrinking down the high spots. Attachment 280297 Attachment 280298 Attachment 280299 Attachment 280300 Rotated to check the reflection using the tree limbs outside. Pics don't show this but watching the reflection while moving around the panel will show high/low spots easily. Attachment 280301 Waves found using the reflection check method. Attachment 280302 High/low spots after blocking to show exactly where to hammer/dolly. Attachment 280303 With the roof straightened I moved to fitting the newly shaped flange to the drip rails with the shrinker/stretcher. Quite a bit of difference in the beginning vs end shapes compared to the straight ruler. I also split the corners to allow the sides to conform to the drip rail positions better. Dropping the roof ~3/8" meant it needed to be widened slightly. Attachment 280304 Attachment 280305 |
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Inner roof structure and drip rail flange coated with two coats of SPI epoxy.
Attachment 280266 Attachment 280267 Roof skin mocked up to roughly mark the back edge for trimming. I cut out the original flanged seam, then clamped the roof back in place and scribed the edge of the roof skin for trimming with hand shears... good forearm workout. Attachment 280268 Attachment 280269 I also checked the fit across the sides and front while mocking up the roof skin and made notes to shrink/stretch the flange to fit the drip rail contours better. Lots of on/off and small adjustments to the the shape corrected. Attachment 280270 I noticed how rough the pinchweld was on the last '66 F100 we restored, and this one was no different. Most spotwelds were twisted and the edges of the flanges were very rough and uneven. I flattened the twisted areas with a hammer/dolly and ground the edges even and smooth with a 2" grinder. Also slightly rounded over the edge so installing the windshield will go smoother. Before- Attachment 280271 Attachment 280272 Attachment 280273 Attachment 280274 Attachment 280275 Attachment 280276 After- Attachment 280277 Attachment 280278 Attachment 280279 Attachment 280280 The A-pillar to upper windshield frame fit was really bad, so I made a relief cut to allow for reshaping, then welded up the cut and seam. Attachment 280281 Attachment 280282 Attachment 280283 Attachment 280284 Attachment 280285 Attachment 280286 Same issue with the lower seams. Attachment 280287 Attachment 280288 Attachment 280289 Attachment 280290 |
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Initial fitting of the roof took awhile to get the rear edge lined up exactly flush with the lower part of the cab. Once it was in place I made a few tacks, then had to reshape the body line on both sides for a flowing shape through the two panels.
Attachment 280253 Attachment 280254 The sides had uneven shapes meeting at the seam from top to bottom. Attachment 280255 Adjusting the tightest part of the roll in the body line. Attachment 280256 Fixing an overlap from the metal being stretched out due to reshaping. Attachment 280257 The slow process of a row of tacks, then planishing the tacks, grinding them nearly flat, and repeating until it's welded solid. Attachment 280258 Welds flattened with 36 grit, taking care not to cut deeply into the surrounding area. Attachment 280259 36 grit scratches removed with 100 grit. Attachment 280260 DA sanded with 60 grit to prep for epoxy. Attachment 280261 Attachment 280262 Attachment 280263 Attachment 280264 Attachment 280265 |
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Details- the seam that was eliminated ran into the end of the drip rail, and the roof skin flange was overhanging the end of drip rail a bit. The inside corner of the roof skin flange also didn't fit tightly against the drip rail, or the lower panel.
Attachment 280238 Attachment 280239 Inside corner tightened up with a rounded chisel and hammer. Attachment 280240 Seam welded closed. Attachment 280241 I also welded the roof flange to the drip rail so they wouldn't have a chance of separating later and cracking the paint. Attachment 280242 Initial smoothing with 36 grit and a cutoff wheel for the tight corner. Attachment 280243 100 grit. Attachment 280244 DA sander. Attachment 280245 Attachment 280246 Attachment 280247 Roof skin flanges welded via plug welds with a bit too much penetration. Attachment 280248 Attachment 280249 Attachment 280250 Antenna hole was filled in. Attachment 280251 Attachment 280252 |
Considering your masterful skill level, did you give any thought to eliminating the portion of the drip rail over the windshield? It seams like all it's really good for is making wind noise and drag. No point in having it too keep rain off the windshield.
I know from this cross section pic that Thunderkiss1965 put in a reply to a thread of mine that its now as easy as just removing the drip rail. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...d51c40bd60.jpg Drip Rail -Eliminating part over windshield - any one done this? - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums (ford-trucks.com) |
We didn't consider removing the drip rails, the end goal is a mild custom truck that keeps most of the stock details. The drip rails could be removed, but it wouldn't be as simple as cutting them off flush and welding up the seam left. The front edge of the roof extends out over the windshield frame, so the front of the roof skin would have to be moved back to match. The doors would need to be installed and fully adjusted so the sides of the roof could be welded in place so that the roof and door tops are flush. I did move the roof on this one rearward a bit so the very front of the roof skin is on the same plane as the windshield post.
I think drip rails that fit closer to the body and were maybe 3/4 as tall as stock rails would clean up the look and have less wind noise without looking like an 80's/90's full custom where everything was shaved smooth. |
I was thinking just the part over the windshield. Leaving the DR over the doors alone, other than of course, maybe go down the A pillar a small amount.
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I want to assemble all of the sheetmetal on the frame next to start panel alignment. That means I need door hinges, and the old ones needed attention. The driver side upper was really worn, as was the lower and passenger upper. The passenger side lower seemed pretty tight but it was packed full of old hardened grease that could make it seem tighter than it actually was so I pulled apart as well.
Before- caked on grease, misshaped door check levers, and worn out pins and bores. Attachment 280178 Attachment 280179 Attachment 280180 Stamps to keep track of the individual parts. Attachment 280181 Attachment 280182 Attachment 280183 New oversized pins. I bought a tapered reamer set which included a .3400 to .3740 reamer which worked well with .373" pins. Attachment 280184 Attachment 280185 Attachment 280186 Blasted all pieces. Attachment 280187 Attachment 280188 Since the reamer is tapered I could set the inner diameter of the hinge brackets slightly smaller than the pins so the pin won't become loose in the bore. Attachment 280189 The mounting flanges had a lot of raised edges from the stamping and tapping processes so I flattened those down. Attachment 280190 Attachment 280191 The last F100 I restored had wide/loose notches on the stop arm which let the door move excessively on the stops. There was also a "ramp" shape on the stop to hold the door fully open which put the roller in a bind and made the door "pop" when closing it off the stop. These were the same way. Original shape of the ramps- Attachment 280192 New shape. I had to weld one ramp to get the shape corrected. The "V" shape holds the door tightly in each stop position with no free play, and the flat ramps allow the roller to smoothly come out of the stops without binding. Attachment 280193 Another problem- the stop arm bottomed out on the hinge body, which let the roller separate from the ramps so the door moved freely. I ground away the edge a little to make more room for the arm to correct this. Attachment 280194 Finished and reassembled, ready to test fit the doors. Attachment 280195 Video showing before/after reworking the stop arm ramps. |
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The door bottoms needed to be cut out to repair rust damage, and to extend the flange. There are back to back 90* bends that are only 1/4" apart and my brake only does a minimum of 3/8" apart. The logical thing to do is buy a milling machine to help make dies for the Pullmax, then make door bottom dies... right?
We actually bought a Bridgeport about a month ago but hadn't set it up yet. So I bought a pallet jack to move it, a few things to get the mill up and running, and had to dissasemble and clean the vise it came with before I could start making anything with it. Attachment 280036 It came with a Kurt vise but it was filthy inside and out. Ended up having to boil it in Purple Power to loosen up the crud enough that it could be scraped off. Attachment 280037 Attachment 280038 Attachment 280039 After deep cleaning, filing/stoning any high spots down, and repainting it. Attachment 280040 In it's temporary spot, ready for work. Attachment 280041 The Pullmax uses 22mm posts so I bought 1" bar and machined it down to size. Attachment 280042 I also cut a quick tool post alignment jig. I'll make a real one out of aluminum eventually. Attachment 280043 Attachment 280044 First lower die attempt. The right side is a plain 90 to hold in place a 90 that I pre-bent in the brake. The ramped left side progressively stamps the second 90. This design didn't have the correct shape ramp so it distorted the work piece. Attachment 280045 Attachment 280046 Version 2 using a twisted steel bar instead to fully support the flange being folded over. This worked much better. Attachment 280047 Attachment 280048 For the test runs I stuck sandpaper on the test panel and slid it in and out by hand with the machine off to show any high spots on the dies. High spots thin out and stretch the work piece and cause distortion. Attachment 280049 The finished part with matching 1/4" offset between the 90's. Attachment 280050 Attachment 280051 Attachment 280052 Welded in and welds smoothed. Attachment 280053 Attachment 280054 |
Amazing work my friend!
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Originally Posted by doug64f100
(Post 19843945)
Amazing work my friend!
The last time the owner visited he brought a set of reproduction knobs and bezels for me to graft onto the Vintage Air switches. Attachment 278069 The switches have M7-.75 threads and the original retaining nuts had a small enough ID that they could be drilled/tapped to match. The shaft of the switch is 15/64ths, and the new knob's ID were smaller with enough material so they could be drilled out to match. Attachment 280022 Retaining nut drilled/tapped, then shortened. Attachment 280023 Attachment 280024 Knob insert drilled oversize. Attachment 280025 Test assembled on the VA-supplied backing plate. Attachment 280026 Attachment 280027 Attachment 280028 The original switch holes were dimpled to clear the bulge on the back of the bezel. The new holes I made earlier weren't, so I had to add those. Attachment 280029 Attachment 280030 I used a large washer for the OD of the dimple, and marked the center of it with making tape to center it behind the switch hole. This was clamped in place with a plate behind it to set the depth of the dimple. Attachment 280031 Attachment 280032 Another piece of tape with a center hole was marked to locate a 1/2" socket. I used a large C clamp to press the socket into the hole of the washer to create the dimple. A 1/8" hole was drilled for the locating tabs on the switch. Attachment 280033 Attachment 280034 Switches mounted. Attachment 280035 |
Love your work and attention to detail. Truly the work of a craftsman!
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Wow, I am speechless!
The numerous suttle fixes, modifications, upgrades and repairs are executed wonderfully, true craftsmanship. The pursuit of perfection on every detail is exhausting but you persevere each one at a time. And to document these details in this master class for your online forum students to observe in wonderment is simply brilliant! Thank you for your dedication and generous sharing - Pete p.s.: Sorry to hear of your friend health challenges and the efforts to sell off his tools to settle his financial struggles. |
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