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DeMartini 03-14-2019 07:32 PM

New owner of 86 F250 2wd
 
Hi everyone,
I just bought a 1986 F-250 extended cab, 2wd. Has a 460, C6, Sterling 10.25 open diff with 3.55 gears. Solid Texas truck. It backfired and then sucked a butterfly in and bent a valve (prior to purchase).
I’ve got three stages planned:
1) pull motor and replace heads, install RV cam, aluminum intake, Holley 4 barrel, headers. Hope to just get her running and a little warmer.
2) single turbo with blow through carb. I have a cheap option on a turbo that is probably a little small (75mm compressor). I’d love 500+/650+ for hp/tq.
3) Lower with bags in the rear and crown Vic front end.
4) Interior updates, replace rear jump seats with a bench.

I’m hoping to make a low and fast kind of rig, like a freight train.

Anyone done anything similar? I’d love to hear anything about lowering given that there aren’t any off the shelf lowering beams that i can find.
TD

Franklin2 03-14-2019 08:10 PM

The crown vic front end isn't a slam dunk like it is in the earlier trucks. These trucks are wider. But with a little fabrication it can be done. Will you keep your original rearend and put some sort of adapters on it for the lug pattern? Or change the rearend out?

A turbo on a carbed engine is not the easiest thing to do. I assume you know all the work required to do it.

DeMartini 03-14-2019 08:34 PM

That’s good to know about the crown Vic front end. Are there other ways to do it?

Ill be getting a lot of help from a friend friend who knows a lot about these motors and can do fabrication. This is definitely a learning project for me.

Franklin2 03-14-2019 08:56 PM

What type of front suspension do you have? This company makes these, but they are for 87-up only. I don't know what the difference is on your 86.

https://djmsuspension.com/product/db3005-3/

DeMartini 03-14-2019 10:49 PM

Unfortunately the pre-87s have a kingpin rather than a ball joint so the djm stuff won’t work. Majour bummer.

ctubutis 03-14-2019 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by DeMartini (Post 18540917)
Unfortunately the pre-87s have a kingpin rather than a ball joint so the djm stuff won’t work. Majour bummer.


Investigate that; my 81 F350 is ball joints, I seem to remember 1980 being the last year for kingpins....?

Kramercd 03-15-2019 12:32 AM

My '82 sales catalog states they introduced "lubed for life" ball joints in that year. I thought I read that in the repair manuals, but it may have been in the lmc catalog.

Ken Blythen 03-15-2019 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by ctubutis (Post 18540943)
I seem to remember 1980 being the last year for kingpins....?

Maybe that applied to F100/150's? My '83 F250 has kingpins

1986F150six 03-15-2019 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Ken Blythen (Post 18540997)
Maybe that applied to F100/150's? My '83 F250 has kingpins

Hello, Ken! :-X22

DeMartini 03-15-2019 08:19 AM

Yes, I should have been more specific. The 250/350s had kingpins still.

Franklin2 03-15-2019 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by DeMartini (Post 18541258)
Yes, I should have been more specific. The 250/350s had kingpins still.

I didn't know what the difference was. I do know the guys with the f100's who have the older axles that are not compatible with DJM's dropped beams, just go to the junkyard and get the later model axles out of a f150 and use the parts/spindles off those later axles along with the dropped beams and bolt them under their truck. I didn't know if you could do the same, and get what you need from a 87-up f250 2wd and then buy the dropped beams and bolt them in place. The DJM people may know if this is a viable option. That would keep your suspension f250 style all the way around, with the larger wheel bearings and brakes and matching wheel patterns.

FuzzFace2 03-15-2019 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Franklin2 (Post 18540672)
What type of front suspension do you have? This company makes these, but they are for 87-up only. I don't know what the difference is on your 86.

https://djmsuspension.com/product/db3005-3/


Originally Posted by DeMartini (Post 18540917)
Unfortunately the pre-87s have a kingpin rather than a ball joint so the djm stuff won’t work. Majour bummer.


Originally Posted by ctubutis (Post 18540943)
Investigate that; my 81 F350 is ball joints, I seem to remember 1980 being the last year for kingpins....?

Both of my 81 F100 were king pin.
Now for DJM you may want to give them a call as the last I heard they were making the beams for the smaller king pin.
Do they even make beams for the 250 / 350 trucks?
Now being you have a 250 I would guess you have the larger king pins like the F100's that have the 5x5.5 wheel pattern.
The 5x4.5 wheel pattern has the smaller king pins from what I have been able to search out between my 2 trucks.

The only other thing to do is swap in the newer ball joint front suspension with the DJM beams.
Dave ----

Franklin2 03-15-2019 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by FuzzFace2 (Post 18541707)
Do they even make beams for the 250 / 350 trucks?
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They make them for 87-up f250/350 2wd.


FuzzFace2 03-15-2019 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Franklin2 (Post 18541734)
They make them for 87-up f250/350 2wd.

I never looked at them because I have the F100.
I am guessing they don't do the king pin ones because they would be the large ones. I wonder why they don't if the 250/350 both use the same large pins, again I have not looked into them other than for the 100/150 trucks.

Now that gets me thinking if the large pin 100/150 is the same for the 250/350 trucks and if so would the beams be the same?
Dave ----

edit: I checked with Auto Zone and the 86 F250 pins and the 81 F100 manual brakes (5x5.5 wheel) are the same part numbers for the king pins.
The F100 power brake (5x4.5 wheel) is the small king pins and not even listed for the F250.
Still wonder why DJM does not make beams for the king pin F250 as it only list 1 pin size and I think the beam might work on the F100/F150 large king pin trucks.

Ken Blythen 03-15-2019 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by 1986F150six (Post 18541178)
Hello, Ken! :-X22

Hi there, David! :-wink
And Chris! :)


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