I think there holding out as long as possible because there is enough changes going to happen that it might hurt 2019 sales. when people see it and the new improvements they will stop buying the 19’s and ford doesn’t want that.

I wonder how the new big block gas motor will tow?

I’m betting little changes. Come on truckmwas revamped 3 years ago. Fords history is every 6-7 years on large changes.

I’m betting HUGE changes.
The current truck is meh at best. Basic interior, basic technology, and riding on a old/new body design that is quickly running out of steam. The current truck will look very old when the competition releases their new stuff this spring. Lots can be done to update the look of the exterior without a body change. The interior needs a lot of love to bring up to date.

RAM will have a new truck, with a MAJOR interior update coming. GM is unveiling an all new design which will be something sweet in the Denali, so Ford will not sit on their rears and let market share slip. If they do, all options are open for me, and I’m sure for others in 2020.

Im expecting a major interior upgrade. New front grilles with a different LED headlight look. New tailgate and tail lights. Hopefully new colors, and not the same ole’ same ole’ utility colors they’ve been stuck in for the last 30 years.

I think Ram will be overhauling their heavies in 2021, and releasing them sometime early in 2020. They will be offering their incredible Limited interior in that truck.. If they did in 2020, I’m there.

Ford and GM are so far off from competing with RAM’s interior, that I’m sure we will see a response in the new 2020.

I don’t know about that.
I bought one of the first 1999 trucks to roll off the line. One of the first 6.0L trucks, one of the first 6.4L trucks without issue. Yeah, the 6.0 was good luck on my part, and the 6.4L needed a total delete, which was not Fords issue, but rather EGR technology issues at the time. The 6.4L was without doubt the easiest 1,180 lbs of torque to be made. 8 years without a single problem.

The 10 speed is a joint effort with GM, with BOTH companies reputations on the line. I’m sure they’ve learned a lot with hundreds of thousands of 10 speeds on the road right now with millions of miles worth of data. If issues do arise, they are usually software related and easily adjusted. Personally, I can’t wait. My wife’s Yukon Denali has one, and it’s almost a seamless shift.

basic technology ? Ram and GM are both coming out with new models just to break even vs Ford.

I have a 16 duramax ltz- which other then the front hood scoop has all the technology it offers, it’s loaded , I have a ram 3500 which is probably closer technology wise to ford with start push button, but both are coming out with new models just to hang with Ford. I’m not even a “Ford “ guy, just always wanted a king ranch since I was a kid so I bought a loaded 350 KR.

All trucks have same colors - you can argue which one is better and which one offers better exterior packages like Z71 custom sport bs RAM blacked out versions and now Fords lariat sport but other then that , you can’t knock Ford for being behind the curve.

I got a brochure in the mail of the 1500 GM and they didn’t even have an interior photo other then their “camera trailer options” which ford was the first to come out with because they know they screwed up compared to Rams interior.

I see f-150 being re-designed first to compeat with Rams interior. I see GM losing its spot to Ram honestly. 2020 super duty will probably offer more grills/ custom options to compete with RAM “cooler” options and possibly the 10 speed and 7.2 gas- but keep everything else the same for another 2 years- just like GM with the LP5- didn’t change anything else for what looks like will be 3 model years 17-18-19