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Bigjake281 11-24-2018 02:18 PM

2001 7.3 on going electrical issue
 
Okay. this might get long winded but ive been having some electrical issues with my truck its an 01 7.3, 257k, completely stock except for straight pipe and wicked wheel. my issue started about 2 months ago when it had a crank but no start issue, after throwing a CPS, and IPR at it it ended up being the IPS. after the IPS was changed it fired right up and i was back to the races i also did every test my scanner would allow me to IE. buzz and cylinder contribution all checked out great and no more codes were present. fast forward a month the truck lost half of the motor while driving, absolutely no power and shaking like a pit bull crapping peach seeds. i dug into the left bank as my scanner told me to and found that the truck had some plastic wedges in the plug for the UVCH which was in turn forcing the plug to separate from the harness. i cut a quarter down jammed it in there and again i was off to the races. truck ran great for 3 more weeks then left me stranded with the same issue except now i have a P1670 code which tells me the PCM and IDM arent talking to one another the truck would still start and run it just ran like crap no power ect. . . two days later when i had time i go to do some tests and now i dont have a wait to start light and the truck wont start at all. i have checked all of the relays and fuses they are all working and no blown fuses at all, i also took it right in the prison wallet and threw a new IDM in it. obviously that didn't work either. my parts cannon is getting low on ammo. can anyone shed some light on my issue? any help is greatly appreciated.

Colorado350 11-24-2018 03:11 PM

Jake, Welcome to FTE.

‘’How did you “check” the fuses?

WTS light not working and no start. Is your fuel bowl heater still connected? Yes…disconnect it, Fuse 30 under dash, replace it and try and start the truck.

Bigjake281 11-24-2018 05:40 PM

I haven't checked the fuel bowl heater, however the fuse was in tact. I checked the fuses with a test light and by pulling them 1 by 1 and visually inspecting them.

carltonwebb 11-25-2018 09:29 AM

I ran into an issue not long ago with a cracked fuse and an led test light. Fuse would show good until a larger load was placed on it. Once that happened, it would open. Also, on my truck when it blew the fuel bowl heater, it was not the small fuse but one of the larger mega fuses that blew.

Colorado350 11-25-2018 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by carltonwebb (Post 18325235)
I ran into an issue not long ago with a cracked fuse and an led test light. Fuse would show good until a larger load was placed on it. Once that happened, it would open. Also, on my truck when it blew the fuel bowl heater, it was not the small fuse but one of the larger mega fuses that blew.

‘Great point about potential issues using a LED Test light versus an incandescent bulb.

Bigjake281 11-25-2018 10:14 AM

I just checked all of the fuses with my multi meter and they all showed continuity. The only way I know to test the relays is to swap them with the horn relay. They all worked. I've torn apart what I can of the wiring harness and I can't find any chafed wires. Getting close to parking it in the street and setting it a blaze.

Walleye Hunter 11-25-2018 11:12 AM

Are you using OEM sensors? Aftermarket sensor have proven to be a problem for us. Do you have the ability to scan your sensors? It's essential and a lot better than tossing $$$$ at it hoping to find the problem.

Colorado350 11-25-2018 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Colorado350 (Post 18324096)
Jake, Welcome to FTE.

‘’How did you “check” the fuses?

WTS light not working and no start. Is your fuel bowl heater still connected? Yes…disconnect it, Fuse 30 under dash, replace it and try and start the truck.


Originally Posted by Bigjake281 (Post 18325305)
I just checked all of the fuses with my multi meter and they all showed continuity. The only way I know to test the relays is to swap them with the horn relay. They all worked. I've torn apart what I can of the wiring harness and I can't find any chafed wires. Getting close to parking it in the street and setting it a blaze.


Did you check your fuel bowl heater and follow the instructions I mentioned above??

Bigjake281 11-25-2018 11:45 AM

All OEM sensors. And the fuel bowl heater didn't make a difference. Unplugged it swapped the fuse and still no go

Bigjake281 11-25-2018 02:43 PM

I'm starting to wonder if the PCM is toast

Walleye Hunter 11-25-2018 03:10 PM

Does it have fuel in it? Does it have oil in it? What are you using to read your codes? A lot of readers won't work with these trucks.

Bigjake281 11-25-2018 03:28 PM

Fuel and oil are good. I'm using a snap on solus to read codes. I don't known if low fuel or oil will prevent the WTS light from coming on

AllaboutMPG 11-25-2018 06:42 PM

Not sure if this will help but here is the wire diagram for PCM power. 2 Fuses and a relay involved. There is also a diode inline with power to the energize circuit for the PCM power relay. You can check for power at several points. As you can see power also goes to AIH relay, glow plug relay, IPR, etc. A short in one of these components could cause a problem.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...69e42c2860.jpg

AllaboutMPG 11-25-2018 07:06 PM

Under hood fuse panel. 24 is PCM power fuse, 30 is PCM power relay, 37 is PCM power diode
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...2a72eec357.jpg

Bigjake281 11-26-2018 03:32 PM

Well damn. I went and checked my truck and still no WTS light. So I figured I would check all of the sensors i could see, separated the wires, checked for bare wire, and I pulled the PCM diode just to look at it and see what it looks like and plugged it back in. Low and behold the damn light is back on and I have no idea which sensor I messed with that made the change

AllaboutMPG 11-26-2018 06:37 PM

Look for the kind of problems in this thread
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-no-start.html

Tugly 11-27-2018 06:45 AM

I can tell you that at this age, connections are going to be a real issue. A lot of what I do at work to solve electrical issues it to remove and clean components, then hit the contacts with DeOxit and put it all back together. My co-workers tease me about the "Pixie Dust" (DeOxit), but as long as I keep saving the day - they can tease me all they want.

I have saved the company countless tens of thousand of dollars that the vendors would have charged for replacing components - and that doesn't even count the down time I prevented. Case in point - a typical "special" PC for controlling what's called a "stamper" runs about $5,000. I've lost memory on these, graphics, and communications. Spread a little pixie dust and we're back online.

Sometimes just pulling an item and re-inserting it cleans the contacts by a swiping action - but the DeOxit reconditions the contacts and they last much longer. The previous owner of my boat "dumped" it on my lap for a good price because all of the electrical was failing. DeOxit, a wire brush, and some screw turning brought the whole boat back from the brink (that and some damaged breakers from bad contacts). So... I ended up with a nice boat for less than it costs to buy a used car.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...9e4b40462f.png

PrescottIce 11-27-2018 02:39 PM

I used to use DeOxit when rebuilding vintage analog musical mixing boards. The potentiometers would get "noisy", and though it is possible to disassemble and clean them, when you're looking at a 64-channel mixer, that's probably several months of work (likely leading to insanity). Spraying each pot with DeOxit while moving it through its travel, problem solved.

Bigjake281 12-13-2018 07:37 PM

Here we go again. Truck hasn't started or rams in a month. Went to see if I could move it for my lazy ass mail man. And what do you know it fired right up. What the hell?


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