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Brian9568 09-24-2018 06:35 PM

1972 f250 brake problem
 
​This is my second post of this. I had it in the 73-79 forum on accident and i didnt know how to move it over so i am reposting I have a 1972 f250 with a 390 and disk brakes in the front. I'm having issues with the front brakes it leaking from the nipple thing on the distribution block or proportioning valve not sure exactly what it is maybe someone can help me figure it out or where I can get a new one or a rebuild kit of some sort ive tried looking everywhere only place i have found it was ebay and its gone now lol heres a pic of it hopefully it helps
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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...34b48b3f71.jpg

NumberDummy 09-24-2018 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Brian9568 (Post 18212781)
​This is my second post of this. I had it in the 73-79 forum on accident and i didnt know how to move it over so i am reposting I have a 1972 f250 with a 390 and disk brakes in the front. I'm having issues with the front brakes it leaking from the nipple thing on the distribution block or proportioning valve not sure exactly what it is maybe someone can help me figure it out or where I can get a new one or a rebuild kit of some sort ive tried looking everywhere only place i have found it was ebay and its gone now lol heres a pic of it hopefully it helps
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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...34b48b3f71.jpg

C8TZ-2B161-A .. Metering Valve-Use with dual piston caliper disc brakes / Obsolete

1968/79 F250 2WD & F350 ~ No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

Note: Some 1973/79 F250 2WD's have single piston caliper disc brakes, do not use this valve.

ford390gashog 09-24-2018 08:31 PM

It's not needed replace it with a brake line tee.

Brian9568 09-27-2018 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by ford390gashog (Post 18212977)
It's not needed replace it with a brake line tee.

thought about doing that but didn't know how important it was. Figured it was there for a reason must have some sort of use besides being a splitter

ultraranger 09-28-2018 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Brian9568 (Post 18219172)
thought about doing that but didn't know how important it was. Figured it was there for a reason must have some sort of use besides being a splitter

The metering (hold-off) valve does have a purpose. It momentary blocks fluid pressure from going to the front discs, in order to give the fluid pressure acting on the rear drums time to overcome the tension of the brake shoe retracting springs and start moving the rear brake shoes towards the inner friction surfaces of the drums.

The momentary delay by the metering valve is designed to give the rear brakes a head start so that all four brakes apply at about the same time. Discs, without a hold-off, would apply immediately when the brake pedal is stepped on. Drums don't respond immediately because they have mechanical components to overcome before the shoes begin to make contact with the drums.

Lrrr-RulerOfOmicronP 09-30-2018 10:28 PM

Here is some good reading. Hope it helps.

http://www.fordification.com/tech/propvalve101.htm

Brian9568 11-09-2018 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Lrrr-RulerOfOmicronP (Post 18224277)
Here is some good reading. Hope it helps.

http://www.fordification.com/tech/propvalve101.htm

that's a good post a lot of good info about it I took it apart and there's a tear in the bottom seal nothing much I can do i can't find a replacement or rebuild kit for it maybe there's an alternative replacement or maybe some dot 3 resistant silcone idk maybe you can help me out
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...490aa62d3a.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...79dc89f160.jpg

GaryKip 11-11-2018 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by ultraranger (Post 18219526)
The metering (hold-off) valve does have a purpose. It momentary blocks fluid pressure from going to the front discs, in order to give the fluid pressure acting on the rear drums time to overcome the tension of the brake shoe retracting springs and start moving the rear brake shoes towards the inner friction surfaces of the drums.

The momentary delay by the metering valve is designed to give the rear brakes a head start so that all four brakes apply at about the same time. Discs, without a hold-off, would apply immediately when the brake pedal is stepped on. Drums don't respond immediately because they have mechanical components to overcome before the shoes begin to make contact with the drums.

Hey Steve, didn't you post once that there was some place that had a rebuild kit for that. Or was it for the pro. valve?

KULTULZ 11-11-2018 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by ford390gashog (Post 18212977)

It's not needed replace it with a brake line tee.


Originally Posted by ultraranger (Post 18219526)

The metering (hold-off) valve does have a purpose. It momentary blocks fluid pressure from going to the front discs, in order to give the fluid pressure acting on the rear drums time to overcome the tension of the brake shoe retracting springs and start moving the rear brake shoes towards the inner friction surfaces of the drums.

The momentary delay by the metering valve is designed to give the rear brakes a head start so that all four brakes apply at about the same time. Discs, without a hold-off, would apply immediately when the brake pedal is stepped on. Drums don't respond immediately because they have mechanical components to overcome before the shoes begin to make contact with the drums.

THANK YOU! for catching and correcting that ...

Rebuild kit and instructions- https://www.musclecarresearch.com/co...-valve-rebuild


mrpotatohead 11-11-2018 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by ford390gashog (Post 18212977)
It's not needed replace it with a brake line tee.

So the engineers at Ford, Bendix, Kelsey Hayes etc. made a mistake when they specified this metering valve?
Never bypass or disable a brake component.

GaryKip 11-13-2018 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by KULTULZ (Post 18299344)
THANK YOU! for catching and correcting that ...

Rebuild kit and instructions- https://www.musclecarresearch.com/co...-valve-rebuild

After reading this thread, I decided to buy the rebuild kits for both the metering valve and the proportioning valve, from muscle car research. With shipping it was only slightly over $20. That site has great instructions and pics of how to clean and install the parts too!

KULTULZ 11-13-2018 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by GaryKip (Post 18302971)

After reading this thread, I decided to buy the rebuild kits for both the metering valve and the proportioning valve, from muscle car research. With shipping it was only slightly over $20. That site has great instructions and pics of how to clean and install the parts too!

What happens is the brake fluid is hydro-scopic and draws water vapor from the atmosphere. It then becomes caustic and eats rubber parts, along with causing corrosion/freezing of parts. It needs to be changed on a yearly or bi-yearly basis and all will last a lot longer.

While you are in there, stick your finger into the MC RSVR BOWLS and see what is on the bottoms.

SteveJH 11-17-2018 08:13 PM

Cop cars and taxis of the same vintage used them, too. I've found a current repro for a Mopar from inline tube. I think its the same, but with a different mounting bracket.


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