HPOP draining overnight? FIXED!!
So we have a problem, my HPOP is draining over night, truck can be use all day with no problem, let it sit overnight and the thing dries up. I opened the HPOP check plug and it is completely dry, I bought a new MC IPR and same thing (needed one anyway unkown age or miles on my spares)
I had the same problem with my old mill and im 100% sure its not the HPOP gasket, timing cover has no damage (used an e99 timing cover) injector O rings cant be as the rails are full of oil, the oil cooler end caps are from the e99 as well (the engine never suffer from this)Its not the check valve in the block either, that only leaves the HPOP? Any of you guys ever had this problem? What other thing could make this happen that im missing? There was one guy at the org with the same problem but the guy never reported back. |
Additional info my HPOP is a T500 and was also ran on the old mill, has the check ball on it, I used the 96-03 HPOP gasket, some of you say it wouldn't matter but lets not forget it also did this in the old mill..
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Section 00-00: Power Stroke Diesel Engine7.3L DI Turbo Workshop ManualSUPPLEMENTAL DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURES No Start - Dry ReservoirProbable CausesTo understand the causes of the no start and identify the causes to this problem, it is important to identify the failure mode. If the engine:
"Started and Ran Approximately 15 Seconds and Stalled" This condition assumes that the reservoir was full when the engine start was attempted or when the engine started normally and would stall after 15 seconds of running.
https://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/94...es/gg1383a.gifFigure 60. - Lube Oil Pump Inspection and Measurement "Did Not Start and Reservoir Was Found Dry"
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I like the manuals but they are old. They might not tell the whole story. It's a good place to start but who knows where you'll end up?
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Thanks for the trouble shooting info, unfortunatly according to the chart this only leaves the HPOP to be the culprit..
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Truck runs fine all day long, even if it sits for more than 6hrs it will start, this happens overnight at least in a 9ish hour span, oil pressure builds quick too according to the dummy gauge.
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Are you using a 94.5-95 hpop or a 96+? |
94.5-95 HPOP with a e99 front timing cover.
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Is there a simple way of telling if an HPOP has the standpipe or not? Like looking through the fill port plug hole or through the sensor port hole? Should it be visible if it’s there? I know that a lot of our trucks have been through several owners and it’s not always clear what parts have been replaced with what. |
I read that post about the HPOP leaking down and thought I had that issue when mine was starting hard.
I would put on a pressure gauge at the HPOP plug and see how long it takes for pressure to drop once engine is turned off. Maybe you can open the plate for the HPOP gear, fill HPOP with oil, add in compressed air to HPOP res and see if the seal leaks? Might have to test cold and hot |
Originally Posted by z31freakify
(Post 18192795)
94.5-95 HPOP with a e99 front timing cover.
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I asked if it would made a difference and some guys said no, should work. But the old engine did this as well.
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Sorry you got the wrong info but to use the e99 cover you’ll need a 96-03 pump. |
Originally Posted by z31freakify
(Post 18192908)
I asked if it would made a difference and some guys said no, should work
On the plus side, at least your pickup does an "HPOP oil change" every night so you don't have to worry about that like the internet would have you believe is necessary. |
Originally Posted by cleatus12r
(Post 18193259)
Aren't internet forums great?
On the plus side, at least your pickup does an "HPOP oil change" every night so you don't have to worry about that like the internet would have you believe is necessary. you know if it’s on the net it’s gotta be true |
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