Has anyone put a NP 242 in a bullnose?
As the title says, I would like to have the option for full time 4WD as well as part time. I find the need to drop out of 4WD while plowing and turning around on either gravel or asphalt where the traction is to high, it would be nice to have a full time option for those times. The only transfer case I've found that may do it is the NP 242. Are there others that would have the same ability and are strong enough? I will be upgrading to a ZF5 as well but I haven't found any examples of the 242 being mated to a ZF5 yet. time to get back to the shop, it's snowing and I have the dash torn apart chasing electrical gremlins.... situation normal..
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What about the NP203? If you find one from a Ford pickup, it should bolt right up to the transmission. They were popular in the 70's trucks.
New Process NP203 Transfer Case Specs |
The NP203 is full time only no 2wd setting, I did find that a conversion kit was available to give it a 2wd setting but it looked like the locked setting was gone with the kit. the 242 has 2wd 4WD high and low locked and full time. I'll do some more research on the conversion kit to see if the locking mechanism still works.
Shift pattern for the 242
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Originally Posted by bpimm
(Post 17881598)
The NP203 is full time only no 2wd setting, I did find that a conversion kit was available to give it a 2wd setting but it looked like the locked setting was gone with the kit. the 242 has 2wd 4WD high and low locked and full time. I'll do some more research on the conversion kit to see if the locking mechanism still works.
I am not too familiar with the transfer case you asked about and if there is a version that bolts to a Ford 4x4 transmission. I did some reading on it, and it's supposed to be simple and surprised everyone how it holds up. |
Yes I use the truck year round and don't use as an off road toy so maintaining the 2wd is important, fuel is spendy.
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I'd suggest checking with Advance Adapters or Novak Conversions. If there's a way to put it on a Ford trans I'm sure they know about it.
Another option if you're swapping transmissions anyway would be to use an NV3550. I know it's possible to adapt those to the back of a Ford engine (I have one on the 302 in my Bronco), and the Jeep NV 242 came attached to NV3550s from the factory. If you want a stouter trans (or lower gearing), an NV4500 might be easier to adapt to than a ZF5. |
Originally Posted by Nothing Special
(Post 17881687)
I'd suggest checking with Advance Adapters or Novak Conversions. If there's a way to put it on a Ford trans I'm sure they know about it.
Another option if you're swapping transmissions anyway would be to use an NV3550. I know it's possible to adapt those to the back of a Ford engine (I have one on the 302 in my Bronco), and the Jeep NV 242 came attached to NV3550s from the factory. If you want a stouter trans (or lower gearing), an NV4500 might be easier to adapt to than a ZF5. Advance and Novak seem to focus on light weight jeeps not 7000 lb trucks, haven't looked at the nv4500 yet. |
Originally Posted by bpimm
(Post 17881746)
The ZF5 doesn't need to be adapted, it came on the 6.9 and 7.3's.
Originally Posted by bpimm
(Post 17881746)
Advance and Novak seem to focus on light weight jeeps not 7000 lb trucks, haven't looked at the nv4500 yet.
And you hadn't said you had a 7000 lb truck with an IDI diesel before or I wouldn't have suggested an NV3550. |
Originally Posted by Nothing Special
(Post 17882067)
The engine that a transmission came on has absolutely nothing to do with whether a particular transfer case can be attached to that trans. My point was that if you can't put the transfer case you want on a ZF5, you probably can put it on a different trans that you could put on your engine
Originally Posted by Nothing Special
(Post 17882067)
The NV 242 is a light weight Jeep transfer case, so even if you want to put one in a 7000 lb truck, the people that do light weight Jeep stuff are probably the people to talk to. And people put at least NV4500s in Jeeps, so Advance and Novak certainly deal with that trans and probably have a way to attach an NV 242 to it. I don't know about the ZF5.
Originally Posted by Nothing Special
(Post 17882067)
And you hadn't said you had a 7000 lb truck with an IDI diesel before or I wouldn't have suggested an NV3550.
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Originally Posted by bpimm
(Post 17882301)
....A variant also came in the H1 Hummer and 3/4ton and 1 ton Chevy's which is how I stumbled on it, I didn't know that it started out as an AMC unit....
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I did some searching, so far it seems Ford used a 31 spline input shaft. According to this link https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledg...r-cases/np242/ the 242 was available in 21, 23 and 32 spline inputs. So if the Fords are 31 spline, this transfer case is a no go behind the ZF. Changing the tranny would be your only option.
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How about the NP205 with "lunchbox lockers" in the front and rear differentials? The NP205 is strong and sought after, may be hard to find.
Which transfer case do you have now? I assume it's full time. |
Originally Posted by grumpin
(Post 17883090)
How about the NP205 with "lunchbox lockers" in the front and rear differentials? The NP205 is strong and sought after, may be hard to find.
Which transfer case do you have now? I assume it's full time. |
Originally Posted by Franklin2
(Post 17882835)
I did some searching, so far it seems Ford used a 31 spline input shaft. According to this link https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledg...r-cases/np242/ the 242 was available in 21, 23 and 32 spline inputs. So if the Fords are 31 spline, this transfer case is a no go behind the ZF. Changing the tranny would be your only option.
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Originally Posted by bpimm
(Post 17883127)
I have the BW 1356 in it now, I'm trying to get the full time feature without loosing the part time or 2wd modes. It has a factory lsd in the back that probably needs a rebuild.
If I was plowing like you are, I would go with what you have and "lunchbox lockers", they are a sort of inexpensive weak point if you will, and from what I understand easier to change. I would think with all four wheels pushing you would do well. I bet you keep busy, plowing is rough on equipment! The last company I worked for had a 1990's Chevy heavy half, I convinced my boss to put a Boss plow on it that fully articulated. Nice plow, needed more truck! :eek: |
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