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thatdarncat 01-21-2018 07:14 AM

Will That 3.0 Be Reliable?
 
Hi Folks,
Im not trolling; I have been a Ford fan most of my life, 77, F-100....95, Ranger for 20 years...2000, f-350 and now a 94, IDI turbo f350...even my Father in Law worked for Ford...I am Ford to the core....BUT, Im also a realist; so is that F-150 Lion ( type) engine worth a crap? I cant find any decent information on reliability???

Those dang 1500 Dodge's seems to be a wiser choice...until the transmission drops, or some cheap plastic piece falls off into the floorboard etc etc, and they are just damn ugly but they do keep going and going and going....is it even a cummins anymore???

~I know that the blame game started with the "6.0-oh-no she's gonna blow" and then Ford doubled down with the 6.4 fiasco~

Yet the 6.7 seems ok but far-far from my budget... Im not after a new 100k truck...Im getting older and want reliability, so if I plunk down 50k I want a diesel truck to tow my 6000lb camper well into retirement years and double as my hearse

So is Ford going to pull one off here or spiral into the diesel abyss?

I like the estimated mpg and its towing capacity, it seems to be a perfect combination for me but dear ol' Ford has made me a little skittish since those other two engines were problematic.

LOL maybe I should get new truck ideas out of my head and stick with my ol reliable f-350 dually 7.3 idi turbo....oh what to do, what to do

tseekins 01-22-2018 05:16 AM

The 2019 Ford F-150's Diesel Isn't From JLR | Ford Authority

Not so sure that these are the same engine that's used in Europe. So, who knows?

Beechkid 01-24-2018 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by thatdarncat (Post 17741041)

Those dang 1500 Dodge's seems to be a wiser choice...

It is.....................



brandonrr 01-25-2018 06:25 AM

A quick trip to the ram ecodiesel forums will quickly change your opinion of their reliability. A lot of the guys that own them are nervous about their trucks and some have traded to something different.


They have a serious issue with the main camshaft gear slipping, whick suddenly throws off the timing and you get an instant grenaded motor. A lot of them blow either before 50k miles or soon after 100k. They also end up with blowby very quickly and low compression well before you would expect from a diesel.

Beechkid 01-25-2018 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by brandonrr (Post 17751217)
A quick trip to the ram ecodiesel forums will quickly change your opinion of their reliability. A lot of the guys that own them are nervous about their trucks and some have traded to something different.


They have a serious issue with the main camshaft gear slipping, whick suddenly throws off the timing and you get an instant grenaded motor. A lot of them blow either before 50k miles or soon after 100k. They also end up with blowby very quickly and low compression well before you would expect from a diesel.

agree!!!! you have to specifically research the exact model, drivetrain you are looking for...............

tseekins 01-26-2018 05:12 AM

The good thing about the Ram 3.0L diesel is that it's covered for 5 years or 100K miles. Of course this does have limitations which their website fails to point out.

As for the engine failures, did anyone mention if it failed during heavy towing / hauling or under normal operation?

someday 01-30-2018 11:28 AM

doesnt it have a timing belt?!?!

also the titan cummins 5.0 diesel has been having lots of problems too

why cant they make an inline diesel?

tseekins 01-31-2018 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by someday (Post 17763201)
doesnt it have a timing belt?!?!

also the titan cummins 5.0 diesel has been having lots of problems too

why cant they make an inline diesel?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum274/

They do, it's fitted for the Transit van.

00t444e 01-31-2018 08:08 AM

I wouldn't buy one, it doesn't make sense to get one with all the emissions failures diesels have today, and I doubt it will be a reliable engine. It looks like another junk throw away engine to me.

someday 01-31-2018 09:22 AM

OMG, why not use that one in f150? which one is better? 3.0l v6 vs 3.2 L5?

without knowing anything about them i would prefer the L5

tseekins 02-01-2018 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by someday (Post 17765407)
OMG, why not use that one in f150? which one is better? 3.0l v6 vs 3.2 L5?

without knowing anything about them i would prefer the L5

3.2L Power Stroke Specs & Info

If you read the towing specs and the HP/TQ numbers, you'll see why it's not it the F-150. Plus the engine holds 12 quarts of oil making routine maintenance more expensive.

Based on what I've read, Ford's intent with the 3.2L was to have an engine designed for more for courier use where the engine might idle all day.

someday 02-01-2018 12:00 PM

figures the more practical engine, longer longevity and better fuel economy is favored for the 'juiced' v6 HORSEPOWER

thatdarncat 02-01-2018 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by 00t444e (Post 17765238)
I wouldn't buy one, it doesn't make sense to get one with all the emissions failures diesels have today, and I doubt it will be a reliable engine. It looks like another junk throw away engine to me.

I was afraid of this comment! It does seem that every mfg is throwing regulated diesel junk at consumers lately.
I guess I need to get a new truck out of my head and keep the ol reliable 7.3 idi turbo, however it would be nice to tow 7000 lbs with some decent mileage that the 3.0's seem to have and something newer and possibly reliable for 10 years.
Yep i heard about the 1500 ecodiesel rams crapping out with a cam slipping and self destructing...I heard some folks are starting to bullet proof them too...groan it seems "bulletproofing" is becoming a far too common term for diesel motors nowadays.
As to an inline 6 diesel, is that Chevys plan on the 1500 duramax?

LOL maybe if I need an f-150 size truck maybe I need to be back in the time range of my 94 idi turbo and say the hell with diesel in a 150 size truck and just go with a inline 6 gasser

Paw's 150 Lariat 02-03-2018 10:37 AM

Why not the F-150 with the Ecoboost? Great combo of towing ability and decent fuel mileage for daily use. Save a few bucks on fuel price and the extra initial cost of the diesel. Only reason I bought my F-350 was to pull our 16K pound 5th wheel. My '13 F-150 Ecoboost towed up to 9K easily. Daily driving 16 mpg around town and up to 20 mpg hwy...not too bad for a 4x4 running 33's and leveled.

bbf385 02-05-2018 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by 00t444e (Post 17765238)
I wouldn't buy one, it doesn't make sense to get one with all the emissions failures diesels have today, and I doubt it will be a reliable engine. It looks like another junk throw away engine to me.


The 6.7 seems to be an extremely reliable engine. I know several people with them and not one problem with them. Even looking at the forums here would suggest very few problems.
Look at the 7.3 forums. In an obs truck they are dogs and at 20+ years old they have regular problems.

Will the 3.0 be reliable? Yeah, if looking at the 6.7 as an example of Ford's mondern diesel engines and their reliability


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