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Tylus 03-25-2017 04:31 PM

D60 is supposed to have a rear leaf shackle...right?
 
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I thought there was supposed to be a shackle on the rear leaf mount? Can't believe I never noticed before when crawling under there...sure does explain the rough as hell ride

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bbf385 03-25-2017 05:38 PM

Look at the other end of the spring.

HeavyE85 03-25-2017 05:39 PM

Shackle is in the front, right there in your first pic. That being said, there are shackle reversal kits. It will give some lift and soften the ride.

Diesel_Brad 03-25-2017 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Tylus (Post 17062245)
I thought there was supposed to be a shackle on the rear leaf mount? Can't believe I never noticed before when crawling under there...sure does explain the rough as hell ride

Nope Ford had their head up their A S S in the 80s and 90s and put the shackle in the front

Tylus 03-25-2017 07:10 PM

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well now I feel stupid. I was looking at pics of my Excursion and how I did the lift on that D50. That's when I noticed it looked weird.

thx guys, it does have that stupid shackle up front. the way it recesses into the frame horn...obviously I missed it

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swampthing 03-25-2017 07:11 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...9fa32f218b.jpg

<br/><br/><br/>Here is my f350 with reverse shackle and superduty u code spring<br/><br/>

Diesel_Brad 03-25-2017 08:35 PM

PMF makes some nice stuff

arse_sidewards 03-26-2017 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad (Post 17062484)
Nope Ford had their head up their A S S in the 80s and 90s and put the shackle in the front

Please enlighten us about how the TTB trucks with negative arch springs (of which many more were made) would ride better with a rear shackle :-roll

If anything having a front shackle on the front axle is better for stability/handling. The D60 just happens to have a positive arch spring that doesn't play nice with the front shackle.

Willigaf 03-26-2017 06:32 AM

Could be argued that the head up ass situation extended throughout the ttb lineup.

Diesel_Brad 03-26-2017 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by arse_sidewards (Post 17063192)
Please enlighten us about how the TTB trucks with negative arch springs (of which many more were made) would ride better with a rear shackle :-roll

If anything having a front shackle on the front axle is better for stability/handling. The D60 just happens to have a positive arch spring that doesn't play nice with the front shackle.

Please enlighten me where this is a thread about a TTB?

Tylus 03-26-2017 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by arse_sidewards (Post 17063192)
Please enlighten us about how the TTB trucks with negative arch springs (of which many more were made) would ride better with a rear shackle :-roll

If anything having a front shackle on the front axle is better for stability/handling. The D60 just happens to have a positive arch spring that doesn't play nice with the front shackle.

dont know, don't care

Ive had many TTB trucks over the years and was quite happy with them. Only true complaint was camber

but I've now got a D60 with factory setup and it's a horrific ride. A crack in the pavement makes me cringe. 1st gear (granny) and speed bumps are enemy #1! Heaven help you with off camber bumps

My 2002 Excursion rode like a dream with its D50. The only true difference is placement of the shackle. Even after the AAL using a rear leaf it still rode light years better. I didn't understand the RSK talk truly until yesterday after I spent hours looking the truck over and reviewing my X pictures.

tjc transport 03-26-2017 07:57 AM

my bet is it rides like crap because it still has the F250 ttb springs in it.
ttb used very heavy springs to withstand the twisting force of the axle. the solid axle F350 used much lighter springs

Briansshop 03-26-2017 08:07 AM

The stock D60 set up includes a negative arch spring,which works ok with the front mounted shackle. The truck pictured has a positive arch lift spring on it,which rides pretty bad,as mentioned with a front shackle.

Tylus 03-26-2017 09:38 AM

Near as I can tell, it's a factory D60 pack with 2 thick AAL.

i broke a ubolt, so will remove the AAL shortly

previous owner did some weird stuff. Longer AAL almost looks like an overload leaf

arse_sidewards 03-26-2017 11:17 AM

I'm not saying front shackle is superior here, just that the design makes sense if you put yourself in the OEMs shoes.


Originally Posted by Willigaf (Post 17063368)
Could be argued that the head up ass situation extended throughout the ttb lineup.

It works pretty ok for what it is. It doesn't really have any big flaws in stock form. It won't support massive tires and is hard/expensive to lift (and will eat tires if you half ass it). Sure the F250 rides like a brick but nobody ever bought one for the ride quality.


Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad (Post 17063394)
Please enlighten me where this is a thread about a TTB?

My point is they went with the setup that would work better on the greater share of trucks.


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