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bf5113x 04-23-2016 04:09 PM

A/C compressor doesn't start 1 yr after retrofit to R134a
 
Last year my 1993 5.0 V8's AC would momentarily start then shut off. I had the remaining Freon drained, put a vacuum of 30 inches on it and then did an R-12 to R-134a retrofit on the system. A/C ran great afterwards. Turned on the A/C this spring and the compressor no longer turns on. I'm wondering if the the compressor died because of the R-134a lubricant 'mixing' with any left over R-12 lubricant in the compressor?

sgip2000 04-23-2016 04:29 PM

There is a low pressure switch that will prevent the compressor from coming on if it's low on refigerant.

bf5113x 04-23-2016 06:14 PM

I tried refilling system with R-134a to just under 45 psi on the low side with the A/C set to Max and the compressor failed to kick in.

88n94 04-23-2016 06:47 PM

Are you getting electric power up to the compressor?

GuitarJesus 04-23-2016 09:39 PM

Did you check the gap on the clutch? If too much the electromagnet won't have the power to pull the clutch to the compressor pulley to engage the compressor

tjc transport 04-24-2016 07:43 AM

when you did the conversion did you flush the system, or just put the "ac killer" kit on?

you said yo you refilled the system to just under 45 psi. are you using the cheapo one side gauge, or a manifold set? to properly charge an AC system, you really need a manifold set to see what the pressures are on both the high and low side.

bf5113x 04-24-2016 11:45 AM

I disconnected the power plug to the compressor, started the truck, then the A/C. There was no DC voltage at the power plug.


I don't know how to check the gap in the compressor clutch.

GuitarJesus 04-24-2016 11:48 AM

Check your wiring for breaks, and also fuses

bf5113x 04-29-2016 12:38 PM

Answer to suggested checks
 
I replaced the A/C compressor fuse with a new one. I again checked for power at the compressor and still no power. Following the wiring looks like an impossible task. Wondering what else might prevent power from being send to compressor.

sgip2000 04-29-2016 01:03 PM

Have you also checked the relay? You can temporarily jumper the clutch wire to +12v to see if it engages.

jas88 04-29-2016 01:22 PM

If you charged it to 45 lbs on the low side and the compressor was off, that does not tell you anything about the state of charge. That should be enough to close the low pressure switch, however.

exranger06 04-29-2016 03:24 PM

Disconnect the low pressure switch and put a jumper across the wiring harness terminals, then check for voltage at the compressor again. If it works then, then you have low refrigerant or a defective low pressure switch. If it still doesn't work, you have a wiring problem.

tjc transport 04-29-2016 05:59 PM

what is the high side pressure?
you may have a blockage in the system that turned the high pressure switch off.
just reading low pressure is useless when trying to diagnose a problem with an AC circuit.

bf5113x 05-18-2016 01:49 PM

current status of non-woking A/C
 
After finding no voltage at the compressor, I verified the low side was above 30 psi and disconnected the plug to the sensor on the accumulator. Using an ohm meter I checked the resistance across the terminals on the sensor (not the plug) and found it 'open'. This would appear to mean the sensor is no longer working as I would have expected to read zero resistance if the sensor detected the 30 psi pressure. I apparently need to replace the sensor on the accumulator but am wondering if I have to drain the entire system of coolant before removing and replacing the sensor?

GuitarJesus 05-18-2016 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by bf5113x (Post 16294548)
After finding no voltage at the compressor, I verified the low side was above 30 psi and disconnected the plug to the sensor on the accumulator. Using an ohm meter I checked the resistance across the terminals on the sensor (not the plug) and found it 'open'. This would appear to mean the sensor is no longer working as I would have expected to read zero resistance if the sensor detected the 30 psi pressure. I apparently need to replace the sensor on the accumulator but am wondering if I have to drain the entire system of coolant before removing and replacing the sensor?

You know I've never replaced that switch when I had a system charge. I would assume its not a schrader valve so it will vent refrigerant if you take it out.


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