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farmer0131 03-31-2016 02:50 PM

rear wiper motor help
 
Hey guys I'm hoping someone on this site can give me a bit of insight on a 2003 wiper motor.
I'm converting it fof a hot rod project and would like to know how to hook up the wires to get this thing just to run. There's 4 wires coming out (black,orange,green,blue) and I'm assuming the body is the ground itself. I would like to disconnect the little black box with the circuit board and just run the main wires directly. Any help would be appreciated, thanks

shorod 04-01-2016 07:07 AM

Are the 4 wire colors you reference from the motor itself, or from the truck to the box on the motor assembly? The colors you mention do not align with the wiring diagram so I'm suspecting those are of the motor itself....

-rod

farmer0131 04-01-2016 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by shorod (Post 16171940)
Are the 4 wire colors you reference from the motor itself, or from the truck to the box on the motor assembly? The colors you mention do not align with the wiring diagram so I'm suspecting those are of the motor itself....

-rod

Yes those wires are directly from the motor. And I forgot to mention it's a 03 explorer

shorod 04-01-2016 01:07 PM

Unfortunately I don't find anything specific to the motor used on the liftgate wiper motor for a 2003 Explorer. Since it has 4 wires and the motor is a 2-speed motor, I'd have to assume that one wire is the Park/Run wire, one is low speed, one is high speed, and one is ground. The ground wire would likely have continuity to the motor case and/or wiper shaft. The Park/Run wire probably is open circuit to currently, the Low speed will have some amount of resistance to the ground terminal as will the high speed. I'd expect that the high speed wire will have lower resistance to ground than the low speed, but those will be easy enough to figure out once you're bench testing it.

-Rod

farmer0131 04-01-2016 02:03 PM

Ok thanks. Guess I'll just start tapping wires together

farmer0131 04-01-2016 05:54 PM

So I got half the battle beat.ive got black grounded and orange at 12v and it's running on the slow setting, nothing else though. Any idea on for getting the high speed going? I tried jumping a couple wires with it but nothing happens.

shorod 04-02-2016 01:10 PM

Have you checked for continuity to the motor case from the black wire as well as the orange wire to see which has the lowest resistance? If the orange wire, that might be the ground wire. It's not always safe to assume in cars that black wires are ground.

-Rod

farmer0131 04-02-2016 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by shorod (Post 16175158)
Have you checked for continuity to the motor case from the black wire as well as the orange wire to see which has the lowest resistance? If the orange wire, that might be the ground wire. It's not always safe to assume in cars that ìblack wires are ground.

-Rod

Yes , actually both orange and black had continuity to the body, which I thought was really odd

shorod 04-02-2016 06:28 PM

I would expect three to have low resistance to the body, but only one to be essentially a dead short. The other two would have slightly higher resistance through the windings for the low speed winding and high speed winding.

-Rod

farmer0131 04-03-2016 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by shorod (Post 16175678)
I would expect three to have low resistance to the body, but only one to be essentially a dead short. The other two would have slightly higher resistance through the windings for the low speed winding and high speed winding.

-Rod

That's what I was thinking too. I did some more messing around though and found that the blue is the constant 12v. When I jump green to blue it's park, and orange to blue is swipe. Black is definitely ground.
Starting to think though maybe it's not 2 speed.

shorod 04-03-2016 10:42 AM

I'm curious what you mean by "green to blue it's park." The Constant 12V should be for the park feature, which applies power to the motor long enough to find the park position once the switch is turned off. That makes me wonder of the function that you suspect is "swipe" is actually triggering the Park function.

-Rod

farmer0131 04-03-2016 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by shorod (Post 16177227)
I'm curious what you mean by "green to blue it's park." The Constant 12V should be for the park feature, which applies power to the motor long enough to find the park position once the switch is turned off. That makes me wonder of the function that you suspect is "swipe" is actually triggering the Park function.

-Rod

Yea I'm pretty confused by the whole thing now. Multimeter doesn't Jive with anything that makes sense either.
What I've got is this.
Black is ground
If I hook power to green or blue it's nothing on its own, but if i jump another wire from the orange to which ever wire I have power to it swipes.
If I then connect orange to the other wire (blue or green, which ever hasn't got power to it) it then parks.
Tried every combo I can think and can't get a second speed going

shorod 04-03-2016 11:08 PM

Do you have a multimeter that you can use to provide high accuracy resistance (ohm) measurements from each of the wires to the motor/gear box housing? That may help identify which wire should be what.

Did you happen to note the direction of motor rotation for each of the combinations? Were they all the same, or did maybe one or two result in the motor spinning the opposite direction?

When you say "swipes" do you mean the motor continues to run, or only makes a single swipe and stops?

-Rod


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