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4x4man514 03-28-2016 01:16 AM

flareside tail light source?
 
hey guys I am on the hunt again for parts, man what a pita! anyways im trying to find some new tail light assemblies for my flareside. so far at carpenter and lmc truck they only have rightside assemblies. no lefts. carpenter doesn't even have them listed. ?????? has anyone else run into this? I don't know of anymore sources to try either. cant find a part number, rrrrgghh. any help would be great . thanks guys!

bcamill 03-28-2016 10:01 AM

Greensales has them, but they are expensive. These are OEM. Many that you find in the after market do not have the side marker on them.


E0TZ-13405-B for Left side


E0TZ-13404-B for right side

NumberDummy 03-28-2016 12:28 PM

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Tail lamps were available as complete assemblies, but Ford also sold the individual parts by themselves (see parts catalog pic).

1980/87 F100/150 Flareside used the same tail lamps as 1980/91 F250 Cab & Chassis.

The right & left tail lamps LENSES are the same, also same as 1977/79 Flaresides.

D7TZ-13450-A .. Right & Left Tail Lamp Lenses / Obsolete

Over 1,000 (!) available NOS from multiple sources.
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EOTZ-13404-B .. Right Tail Lamp Assy / Obsolete

NOS PARTS SOURCE in Olathe KS has 1 = 913-220-5746.

NOS PARTS LTD in Waxahachie TX has 2 = 972-937-2201.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 4 = 800-543-4959.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 89 = 800-476-9653.
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EOTZ-13405-B .. Left Tail Lamp Assy / Obsolete

No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.

4x4man514 03-28-2016 03:48 PM

Thanks guys. I'm waiting on nos parts in ks to get back with me but everyone else listed doesn't have any. It seems like every part I try to track down I run into this .errgghh.

Bcamill , thanks for the heads up about Oem vs. aftermarket parts, I was wondering about that.

Number dummy, so you are saying the older LENSES are the same but not the HOUSINGS right? Do you know what the differences are? I may have found some but the claim to be for 77 through 87. I'm a little suspicious if they are right.

FuzzFace2 03-28-2016 04:19 PM

Would this work for you?
Torsion Mount® Two-Stud Stop Tail Turn Light w/ Side Marker & Molded Pigtail Termination Product Family - Grote Industries


I do have a set of cheap boat trailer lights but they do look cheap.
Think when it comes time for mounting the bed with lights I may go with the above set.
Dave ----

bcamill 03-28-2016 05:16 PM

FuzzFace2 has a great link. Ebay has them for 34.15, plus 7 for shipping. I would order those as they have the side marker. Looks great.

FuzzFace2 03-28-2016 05:49 PM

I like Grote lights as I have them on my car trailer and they are used on a lot of trucks too.
They also come in a 3 bolt side marker also. I just thought the stock brackets used 2 bolts but don't know as I don't have them either.
Dave ----

4x4man514 03-28-2016 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by FuzzFace2 (Post 16161735)
Would this work for you?
Torsion Mount® Two-Stud Stop Tail Turn Light w/ Side Marker & Molded Pigtail Termination Product Family - Grote Industries


I do have a set of cheap boat trailer lights but they do look cheap.
Think when it comes time for mounting the bed with lights I may go with the above set.
Dave ----

thanks, the actual lights on my truck are made by grote. so does that mean they aren't even ford lights to begin with? or did ford use them. ive had my truck most of its life(2nd owner) and it was in pristine shape when I bought it so it is very doubtful they have ever been swapped.

ill have to look in the morning but im pretty sure mine are 3 bolt and the way that bracket is shaped it will interfere with where the wires exit the light. but the 3 bolt lights don't have the right pigtail. I know wires can be spliced but im trying to avoid that if I can. am I missing something? thanks a bunch!

FuzzFace2 03-28-2016 07:12 PM

Like most parts for any make car or truck the manf. does not make most of them, they are out sourced.
So the tail lights could have been made by Grote for Ford.
On the site if you look at other tail lights they list who used that light. They only list 2 lights with side marker
Dave ----

NumberDummy 03-29-2016 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by 4x4man514 (Post 16161684)
Thanks guys. I'm waiting on nos parts in ks to get back with me but everyone else listed doesn't have any. :-huh It seems like every part I try to track down I run into this .errgghh.
CARPENTER has 89 of the right side lamps, but these are not listed in his catalog because they are NOS (New Old Stock).

When you call, you have to tell the idiot who answers the phone that these are listed on partsvoice.com and/or rearcounter.com

This is why I list it as CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS

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4x4man514 04-14-2016 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by FuzzFace2 (Post 16161735)
Would this work for you?
Torsion Mount® Two-Stud Stop Tail Turn Light w/ Side Marker & Molded Pigtail Termination Product Family - Grote Industries


I do have a set of cheap boat trailer lights but they do look cheap.
Think when it comes time for mounting the bed with lights I may go with the above set.
Dave ----


Thanks for all the information guys, I wound up going with the three stud type on eBay. The look nice but I have to get the Cheby connectors off and the ford ones on.

Does anyone know where to get the grommets for where the taillight wires go through the body? They look like they just slip off of the conduit but I haven't been able to budge mine.

Thanks guys!

SCFlareside 04-14-2016 01:28 PM

Wiring?
 

Originally Posted by FuzzFace2 (Post 16161735)
Would this work for you?
Torsion Mount® Two-Stud Stop Tail Turn Light w/ Side Marker & Molded Pigtail Termination Product Family - Grote Industries


I do have a set of cheap boat trailer lights but they do look cheap.
Think when it comes time for mounting the bed with lights I may go with the above set.
Dave ----

Great link to save!

Looking at the wires on those - is the extra pigtail the backup lights or ground? Anyone know?

FuzzFace2 04-14-2016 02:02 PM

I don't know 100% but a guess B/U light.
You would have 2 wires for tail & turn so you have to have a 3rd for B/U.


But the body? is listed as "Material: Polycarbonate/Acrylic" so who knows?
But still think the 3 wires are supply to lights and inside the light housing the sockets are grounded thru the mounting studs.
Kind of how the cheap boat trailer light kits are built with plastic housings.
Dave ----

FuzzFace2 04-14-2016 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by 4x4man514 (Post 16206166)
Thanks for all the information guys, I wound up going with the three stud type on eBay. The look nice but I have to get the Cheby connectors off and the ford ones on.

Does anyone know where to get the grommets for where the taillight wires go through the body? They look like they just slip off of the conduit but I haven't been able to budge mine.

Thanks guys!

My truck was so jacked up it did not have any thing back there but I would hit a hard ware store for grommets to fit the holes or maybe make the holes bigger to fit the grommets and get flex conduit
to go from grommet (pushed inside grommet) up to the lights.


I want to say I seen the flex thru LMC or Carpenter when looking over the sites.
Maybe one of the parts stores would have the flex and no not the split loom stuff.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fd/full.aspx?Page=156
Dave ----

4x4man514 04-14-2016 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by SCFlareside (Post 16207197)
Great link to save!

Looking at the wires on those - is the extra pigtail the backup lights or ground? Anyone know?

it is for the back up lights. I took mine apart and was playing with them last night.


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