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Jdeshler 03-26-2015 01:24 PM

Dually ideas welcome!! (Hell, do we have a dually thread?)
 
Going to pick this old steed up in the next few days.. Give me some ideas of what ya think.. I'm wanting to drop it(not slam), put a long bed on and 80's dually fenders..

78 f250 custom
351m
4 speed
2wd
Power brakes
Power steering
Custom Coleman gas tank:-X10


http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8dqtd8a.png

74dailydriver 03-26-2015 03:00 PM

Some inspiration.. Looks like this one has had a slight chop top..


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...dcd6cfb6b4.jpg

skeeter1971 03-26-2015 03:58 PM

dulley
 
ya nice find this looks like a great project truck
i am going to take pics this weekend of the progress with mine and post the info. i like your idea of dropping it. i have seen some low dulleys around town new ones with two wide tires on the rear not 4, it kinda looked cool.:-X22

Jdeshler 03-26-2015 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by 74dailydriver (Post 15213473)
Some inspiration.. Looks like this one has had a slight chop top..


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...dcd6cfb6b4.jpg

That is a sharp truck.. I'd consider chopping if I weren't 6'10":-roll


Originally Posted by skeeter1971 (Post 15213663)
ya nice find this looks like a great project truck
i am going to take pics this weekend of the progress with mine and post the info. i like your idea of dropping it. i have seen some low dulleys around town new ones with two wide tires on the rear not 4, it kinda looked cool.:-X22

Its pretty straight and does not have any rust(rare for Alabama).. The previous owner thought the motor was locked up but with a hot battery and one of my carbs that 351m is a healthy old man! Good luck with yours, id love to see some pics!

redneck_davis 03-26-2015 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by skeeter1971 (Post 15213663)
ya nice find this looks like a great project truck
i am going to take pics this weekend of the progress with mine and post the info. i like your idea of dropping it. i have seen some low dulleys around town new ones with two wide tires on the rear not 4, it kinda looked cool.:-X22

I heard someone mention it the other day, but I still haven't seen a pickup running "super singles". I drive a flatbed and my company runs them on our trucks but not trailers. I'm not too big of a fan of them on my rig, it narrows the wheelbase, looks funny.
Curious to see it on a dually pickup though



And hell yes man. A slight drop and slick paint job, thatd be awesome. Saw that old fast n furious movie the other night with this bowtie on there and had me thinkin. Duuuuaalllllllyy!!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...8b15a5922f.jpg

GM4WALLS 03-26-2015 09:17 PM

I had wanted to do a Diesel powered, bagged crew cab dualie. Long and low.

DirtyLarry 03-26-2015 09:19 PM

I saw a 80's sc ford on the highway the other day. Had some kind of funky paint job, like a pace truck. It had daully fenders and super singles, Looked big drag slicks with tread. God awfully ugly lol. That f&f truck is slick!

78F-250Lariat 03-26-2015 09:36 PM

Check the air on the inside left hand tire!

privateer, eh 03-26-2015 11:58 PM

May as well do that brake stand now seeing as you've got no weight and the right set of tires for it. Get some beefy sway bars on that truck and it will really wake up the handling, the 89 F 350 is a decent bolt in both front and rear. My 78 was a charm in the curves with sways, 7900lb Ferrari LOL. Katy is getting in site of being done and then it's Henry's time, 6 wheelers rule big time and gives you enough size to move rice rockets and puddle jumpers out of the way. Give us a thread FTE.

Jdeshler 03-27-2015 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by redneck_davis (Post 15214383)
I heard someone mention it the other day, but I still haven't seen a pickup running "super singles". I drive a flatbed and my company runs them on our trucks but not trailers. I'm not too big of a fan of them on my rig, it narrows the wheelbase, looks funny.

Curious to see it on a dually pickup though

And hell yes man. A slight drop and slick paint job, thatd be awesome. Saw that old fast n furious movie the other night with this bowtie on there and had me thinkin. Duuuuaalllllllyy!!

They did good building that bow tie.. I was actually dreaming about 22.5 semi's:-X21

I'm gonna clean up my Wagner and lay some rustoeum on

Since it sits so low in the front I figure a 3-4" drop in the rear would be golden..


Originally Posted by GM4WALLS (Post 15214501)
I had wanted to do a Diesel powered, bagged crew cab dualie. Long and low.

A cummins would be the only way to go for that!


Originally Posted by DirtyLarry (Post 15214508)
I saw a 80's sc ford on the highway the other day. Had some kind of funky paint job, like a pace truck. It had daully fenders and super singles, Looked big drag slicks with tread. God awfully ugly lol. That f&f truck is slick!

Lol!! I'm sure it was a sight.. Too bad you couldn't snag a pic:-X10


Originally Posted by 78F-250Lariat (Post 15214545)
Check the air on the inside left hand tire!

I aired it down for some rock crawling :-missingt


Originally Posted by privateer, eh (Post 15214813)
May as well do that brake stand now seeing as you've got no weight and the right set of tires for it. Get some beefy sway bars on that truck and it will really wake up the handling, the 89 F 350 is a decent bolt in both front and rear. My 78 was a charm in the curves with sways, 7900lb Ferrari LOL. Katy is getting in site of being done and then it's Henry's time, 6 wheelers rule big time and gives you enough size to move rice rockets and puddle jumpers out of the way. Give us a thread FTE.

Those tires are the perfect candidate for a smoke down!:-X22

Awesome tip on the sway bars, thank you very much! Always wanted a Ferrari:-X10

I agree on the thread!!:-drink

Jdeshler 03-31-2015 08:51 PM

Bringing the 350 home

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...pscquvpzym.jpg

Yes I drove it on the trailer

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7aajdlsz.jpg

Freshly rebuilt 15 years ago before parked 351m

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psxdhusrp2.png


Maybe someone can decode for me?

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psqb4pscxn.png


Trashing these splits

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...pscsnhktl0.png

Kitty likes it already!:-X22
Chewys just looking for an air conditioner :-X10

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psrdm6ykgl.png

Rear diff seems to have a locker, it got sideways a few times on me

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psrzhpxqny.png


http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psjeeodzf0.png

HIO Silver 03-31-2015 09:12 PM

Ideas? Sure. I'd bring 'er back with a dually bed and fenders but not use dually wheels.

Instead, install single, fat, wide tires like Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pros which are favored by the pro street crowd. Mickey Thompson Performance Tires & Wheels

http://img.tapatalk.com/a6f8484d-be57-baaa.jpg

https://i708.photobucket.com/albums/...9/phantom1.jpg

Jdeshler 03-31-2015 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by HIO Silver (Post 15228627)
Ideas? Sure. I'd bring 'er back with a dually bed and fenders but not use dually wheels.

Instead, install single, fat, wide tires like Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pros which are favored by the pro street crowd.
http://img.tapatalk.com/a6f8484d-be57-baaa.jpg

Awesome! This truck is definitely going low!

Those wheels are killer

HIO Silver 03-31-2015 09:36 PM

Another idea....

Instead of just installing dually fenders, widen the entire bed behind the fenders. The widened bedside areas could accommodate auxiliary fuel tanks, an onboard air compressor, auxiliary battery, tool & storage compartments, etc. Also relocate the tail light posts outboard and section to widen the tailgate and rear bumper to be..... w i d e r. Literally, a real "Flareside".

bkaul 03-31-2015 09:51 PM

Ooh, I like it. Lots of fabrication, but cool idea!

HIO Silver 03-31-2015 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by bkaul (Post 15228758)
Ooh, I like it. Lots of fabrication, but cool idea!

I admit it... I have issues turning off my gearhead. :'( My imagineering is more or less 24/7.

Jdeshler 03-31-2015 10:21 PM

Axle plate

Do L S mean limited slip? :-X04


http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5z2jbdnz.png

Jdeshler 03-31-2015 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by HIO Silver (Post 15228702)
Another idea....

Instead of just installing dually fenders, widen the entire bed behind the fenders. The widened bedside areas could accommodate auxiliary fuel tanks, an onboard air compressor, auxiliary battery, tool & storage compartments, etc. Also relocate the tail light posts outboard and section to widen the tailgate and rear bumper to be..... w i d e r. Literally, a real "Flareside".

Ooo, now that is one to ponder.. I actually have access to these trucks for days in this part of alabama so panels would be no problem...:-X21


Originally Posted by bkaul (Post 15228758)
Ooh, I like it. Lots of fabrication, but cool idea!

Agreed: -X22


Originally Posted by HIO Silver (Post 15228800)
I admit it... I have issues turning off my gearhead. :'( My imagineering is more or less 24/7.

I have been known to work out mechanical issues in my sleep :-X19

Wife gets tired of me asking her to pass me tools in my sleep:-X10

HIO Silver 03-31-2015 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jdeshler (Post 15228872)
Axle plate

Does L S mean limited slip? :-X04

Yes...

http://www.differentials.com/wp-cont...naDiffTags.jpg

privateer, eh 03-31-2015 11:13 PM

The reason that I put an 89 chassis under my 78 f350 was for the newer suspension and shorter wheel base, plus its lighter. Now that some cash has been freed up I'm picking up a f450 for the rear axle, rims and 460 plus a few other reasons. I tell you this because of the Sterling rear end. If your looking for one look for one thats 96 or newer as its the generation of axle that comes with a longer pinion and is a stronger rear. The next thing to look for is the triple spider gear set up. May as well put a nest on top of the cab as the kitty is going to be there half the time watching you. If I have a surpise free month I might be able to get started on my F350 to and there will be 4, 6 wheeler builds happening. What length is your wheel base, it looks like a stubby in the picks, sure has a nice rake.

Jdeshler 03-31-2015 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by privateer, eh (Post 15229044)
The reason that I put an 89 chassis under my 78 f350 was for the newer suspension and shorter wheel base, plus its lighter. Now that some cash has been freed up I'm picking up a f450 for the rear axle, rims and 460 plus a few other reasons. I tell you this because of the Sterling rear end. If your looking for one look for one thats 96 or newer as its the generation of axle that comes with a longer pinion and is a stronger rear. The next thing to look for is the triple spider gear set up. May as well put a nest on top of the cab as the kitty is going to be there half the time watching you. If I have a surpise free month I might be able to get started on my F350 to and there will be 4, 6 wheeler builds happening. What length is your wheel base, it looks like a stubby in the picks, sure has a nice rake.

Never heard of a triple spider, that sounds like a hoss!

Thanks for the tips on the frame weight..

Yes, puddy (as I call her) :-X10 always has the #1 spot to observe every snip scrub or screw on everything I do to make sure she approves..

She's here spellchecking me now


http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psvayiyukr.jpg



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Jdeshler 03-31-2015 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by HIO Silver (Post 15228918)


:-bigparty

privateer, eh 03-31-2015 11:57 PM

I think Puddy has a second life you may not know of or she has a doppleganger up here in Alberta. Our chapter leader goes by the same name, curious.

Jdeshler 04-01-2015 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by privateer, eh (Post 15229140)
I think Puddy has a second life you may not know of or she has a doppleganger up here in Alberta. Our chapter leader goes by the same name, curious.

:-X04

Oh yeah, she is a sly thing!

Jdeshler 04-01-2015 01:09 PM

Super clean truck, no rust

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psoqmqw8lk.jpg


351 I was afraid the squirrels toated away :-X10

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psop7pqueg.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7a2geooy.jpg

greentruck72 04-01-2015 01:49 PM

cool man, if it was my truck i would do the slight lower, and do the 80's fender thing, i would also be swaping in a 390 if it were me, or a 6.9or 7.3 idi disel, cool truck hope to see more.

TheRedPheonix 04-01-2015 02:13 PM

If you dont want those locking ring wheels, and you're close to Massachusetts, I'll take them.

Jdeshler 04-01-2015 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by greentruck72 (Post 15230677)
cool man, if it was my truck i would do the slight lower, and do the 80's fender thing, i would also be swaping in a 390 if it were me, or a 6.9or 7.3 idi disel, cool truck hope to see more.

I'm definitely going to pull most of the leafs out of the back for a 4" drop

Iv considered a diesel but I have a 7.3 (real diesel:-X22) so I'm pretty contempt there.. I do have dibs on a 460 if the M starts acting up on me..


Originally Posted by TheRedPheonix (Post 15230751)
If you dont want those locking ring wheels, and you're close to Massachusetts, I'll take them.

I live in lower Alabama, an hour above Mobile

Old Reliable 04-01-2015 06:32 PM

Personally, I would love to take on of these old dually trucks and make it into a CCLB dually. Put a 7.3L IDI engine in it and use it as an Airstream hauler.

privateer, eh 04-01-2015 07:44 PM

Safer more effective way to lower it would be to flip the front spring perch and remove the overload spring pack. If your not hauling more than 1200lbs you won't be needing your overloads and your over loads only affect your drive ability when they are working with a load on. Your other springs are a different story, start taking them out and the handling in the back end goes away. Theres no sway bar on these trucks and to counter that and to carry the extra base weight you have that large spring pack. Even with a basic regular truck box on your tipping the scales at 6400 - 6800lbs. My dump truck weighed in at 7910 empty and minimal fluids and at that weight I had an inch until the overloads started making contact. Because your using this for pleasure one thing that would help your handling is to relocate your shocks to a more verticle angle in order to get better shock action.

TylerJ150 04-01-2015 10:06 PM

As far as the bed goes I think this is one of the best executed takes on a dually bed for dentsides I've seen. Though I'd leave out the vent I think it would look sick on a lowered single cab.
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...stt90opm5.jpeg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...sokx8t6ma.jpeg

Jdeshler 04-01-2015 10:10 PM

Looks like 5" of drop will be pretty simple

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6yagcwkv.jpg

Jdeshler 04-01-2015 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Old Reliable (Post 15231399)
Personally, I would love to take on of these old dually trucks and make it into a CCLB dually. Put a 7.3L IDI engine in it and use it as an Airstream hauler.

Crews are super rare in these woods!


Originally Posted by privateer, eh (Post 15231584)
Safer more effective way to lower it would be to flip the front spring perch and remove the overload spring pack. If your not hauling more than 1200lbs you won't be needing your overloads and your over loads only affect your drive ability when they are working with a load on. Your other springs are a different story, start taking them out and the handling in the back end goes away. Theres no sway bar on these trucks and to counter that and to carry the extra base weight you have that large spring pack. Even with a basic regular truck box on your tipping the scales at 6400 - 6800lbs. My dump truck weighed in at 7910 empty and minimal fluids and at that weight I had an inch until the overloads started making contact. Because your using this for pleasure one thing that would help your handling is to relocate your shocks to a more verticle angle in order to get better shock action.

Awesome advise!! Didn't know it was that heavy:-hair

I have springs off the back of a 2wd F250 and I figured that would be a substantial drop or will it effect the handling too negatively? L

Copy that on the shocks as well :- X22

Originally Posted by TylerJ150 (Post 15232161)
As far as the bed goes I think this is one of the best executed takes on a dually bed for dentsides I've seen. Though I'd leave out the vent I think it would look sick on a lowered single cab.
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...stt90opm5.jpeg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...sokx8t6ma.jpeg

That is amazing!

I can't put 80's fenders on it now:-X10

Basically looks they cut slits, pushed the outter wall out and welded the gaps so it would retain the shape

I was trying to conceive something similar but that captures it fully. .:-drink

Does this truck have a build thread?

Thank you for the share..

Jdeshler 04-01-2015 11:00 PM

HIO, you've been at it for awhile:-X10

Someone will do it one day..



Originally Posted by HIO Silver (Post 12779299)
First, forgive me for posting a pic of a Ram.

Second, instead of using Flareside fenders that look tacked on, how about doing with Ram did with their 2013 dually and go with a large but smoothed box flare? The dent could die to the flare and then reappear on the back side. Alternatively, widen the entire bed and rear end behind the flares to match the width of the flare. Here's a stock Ram and a Photoshopped pic:

Stock:
http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b...c4b5970c-800wi
http://www.cardata.com/images/2013/R...500_Dually.jpg

'shopped with a wider rear bumper too:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2db1mox.jpg

C'mon... do it on a Dent.


Old Reliable 04-01-2015 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by TylerJ150 (Post 15232161)
As far as the bed goes I think this is one of the best executed takes on a dually bed for dentsides I've seen. Though I'd leave out the vent I think it would look sick on a lowered single cab.

I think that looks terrible :-X13 I would want something like the new 2012 Super duty look, rounded arches over the wheel.

privateer, eh 04-02-2015 12:15 AM

Unfortunately my brains aren't all that educated on F250s, been running F350s cubevans , conventional cab & chassis and a couple of IH 4270s and a Brigadier Topkick most of my life. I do know that there is a width difference between 250 & 350 dually leafs and it appears there's an arc difference with 4x4 springs. If you change springs you've got a lot of rivets to grind or drill out. The gvw on my F350 srw is 8900 and I think the gvw on my F250 CS is 8400, it may be 500lbs less but shouldn't be any less than 7900 as it would be useless as a CS. When I finally get to work on my 6 wheeler I'll be using the hood and front fenders from my freshly written off 79 to build my dually flares, really thinking about following the tri 5 step side wheel tubs as a basic design idea. Still debating if I stay below the racetrack or if I include it and blend the top of the fender into the body curve. It's going to be to much work either way so it better look good in my brain before I start.

HIO Silver 04-02-2015 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Jdeshler (Post 15232324)
HIO, you've been at it for awhile:-X10

Someone will do it one day..

Yes. Yes I have.... who is gonna be that guy with the steel nards to take on such a project?

I gotta give myself reps because that's some pretty good Photoshopping! :-X22

https://i50.tinypic.com/2db1mox.jpg

Jdeshler 04-02-2015 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Privateer, eh (Post 15232466)
Unfortunately my brains aren't all that educated on F250s, been running F350s cubevans , conventional cab & chassis and a couple of IH 4270s and a Brigadier Topkick most of my life. I do know that there is a width difference between 250 & 350 dually leafs and it appears there's an arc difference with 4x4 springs. If you change springs you've got a lot of rivets to grind or drill out. The gvw on my F350 srw is 8900 and I think the gvw on my F250 CS is 8400, it may be 500lbs less but shouldn't be any less than 7900 as it would be useless as a CS. When I finally get to work on my 6 wheeler I'll be using the hood and front fenders from my freshly written off 79 to build my dually flares, really thinking about following the tri 5 step side wheel tubs as a basic design idea. Still debating if I stay below the racetrack or if I include it and blend the top of the fender into the body curve. It's going to be to much work either way so it better look good in my brain before I start.

Yeah thats way too much to get involved with.. I'm going to bust 80% of those leafs out of there and see what it'll do.. If I have to put some railroad irons in the bed later I will because it will walk around itself now just feathering it in the yard..

Very interested in seeing those fenders because I have an entire front clip put back..


Originally Posted by HIO Silver (Post 15232495)
Yes. Yes I have.... who is gonna be that guy with the steel nards to take on such a project?

I gotta give myself reps because that's some pretty good Photoshopping! :-X22

https://i50.tinypic.com/2db1mox.jpg

Lol.. Well it does look pretty good:-X22

TylerJ150 04-02-2015 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jdeshler (Post 15232246)
Crews are super rare in these woods! Awesome advise!! Didn't know it was that heavy:-hair I have springs off the back of a 2wd F250 and I figured that would be a substantial drop or will it effect the handling too negatively? L Copy that on the shocks as well :- X22 That is amazing! I can't put 80's fenders on it now:-X10 Basically looks they cut slits, pushed the outter wall out and welded the gaps so it would retain the shape I was trying to conceive something similar but that captures it fully. .:-drink Does this truck have a build thread? Thank you for the share..

That's exactly what he did, there's more pics of how he did it in the build thread for that thing, but I can't for the life of me remember what forum it's on. I just remember it's on a superduty chassis with a 7.3 powerstroke.

Jdeshler 04-02-2015 09:09 AM

I knew that looked like a 7.3! Now that's something I'd be interested in, a cummins, not so much..

No offense, the cummins is a great motor but eh, been done too much.. (flame on:-X10)


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