Dually ideas welcome!! (Hell, do we have a dually thread?)
Going to pick this old steed up in the next few days.. Give me some ideas of what ya think.. I'm wanting to drop it(not slam), put a long bed on and 80's dually fenders..
78 f250 custom 351m 4 speed 2wd Power brakes Power steering Custom Coleman gas tank:-X10 http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8dqtd8a.png |
Some inspiration.. Looks like this one has had a slight chop top..
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...dcd6cfb6b4.jpg |
dulley
ya nice find this looks like a great project truck
i am going to take pics this weekend of the progress with mine and post the info. i like your idea of dropping it. i have seen some low dulleys around town new ones with two wide tires on the rear not 4, it kinda looked cool.:-X22 |
Originally Posted by 74dailydriver
(Post 15213473)
Some inspiration.. Looks like this one has had a slight chop top..
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...dcd6cfb6b4.jpg
Originally Posted by skeeter1971
(Post 15213663)
ya nice find this looks like a great project truck
i am going to take pics this weekend of the progress with mine and post the info. i like your idea of dropping it. i have seen some low dulleys around town new ones with two wide tires on the rear not 4, it kinda looked cool.:-X22 |
Originally Posted by skeeter1971
(Post 15213663)
ya nice find this looks like a great project truck
i am going to take pics this weekend of the progress with mine and post the info. i like your idea of dropping it. i have seen some low dulleys around town new ones with two wide tires on the rear not 4, it kinda looked cool.:-X22 Curious to see it on a dually pickup though And hell yes man. A slight drop and slick paint job, thatd be awesome. Saw that old fast n furious movie the other night with this bowtie on there and had me thinkin. Duuuuaalllllllyy!! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...8b15a5922f.jpg |
I had wanted to do a Diesel powered, bagged crew cab dualie. Long and low.
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I saw a 80's sc ford on the highway the other day. Had some kind of funky paint job, like a pace truck. It had daully fenders and super singles, Looked big drag slicks with tread. God awfully ugly lol. That f&f truck is slick!
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Check the air on the inside left hand tire!
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May as well do that brake stand now seeing as you've got no weight and the right set of tires for it. Get some beefy sway bars on that truck and it will really wake up the handling, the 89 F 350 is a decent bolt in both front and rear. My 78 was a charm in the curves with sways, 7900lb Ferrari LOL. Katy is getting in site of being done and then it's Henry's time, 6 wheelers rule big time and gives you enough size to move rice rockets and puddle jumpers out of the way. Give us a thread FTE.
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Originally Posted by redneck_davis
(Post 15214383)
I heard someone mention it the other day, but I still haven't seen a pickup running "super singles". I drive a flatbed and my company runs them on our trucks but not trailers. I'm not too big of a fan of them on my rig, it narrows the wheelbase, looks funny.
Curious to see it on a dually pickup though And hell yes man. A slight drop and slick paint job, thatd be awesome. Saw that old fast n furious movie the other night with this bowtie on there and had me thinkin. Duuuuaalllllllyy!! I'm gonna clean up my Wagner and lay some rustoeum on Since it sits so low in the front I figure a 3-4" drop in the rear would be golden..
Originally Posted by GM4WALLS
(Post 15214501)
I had wanted to do a Diesel powered, bagged crew cab dualie. Long and low.
Originally Posted by DirtyLarry
(Post 15214508)
I saw a 80's sc ford on the highway the other day. Had some kind of funky paint job, like a pace truck. It had daully fenders and super singles, Looked big drag slicks with tread. God awfully ugly lol. That f&f truck is slick!
Originally Posted by 78F-250Lariat
(Post 15214545)
Check the air on the inside left hand tire!
Originally Posted by privateer, eh
(Post 15214813)
May as well do that brake stand now seeing as you've got no weight and the right set of tires for it. Get some beefy sway bars on that truck and it will really wake up the handling, the 89 F 350 is a decent bolt in both front and rear. My 78 was a charm in the curves with sways, 7900lb Ferrari LOL. Katy is getting in site of being done and then it's Henry's time, 6 wheelers rule big time and gives you enough size to move rice rockets and puddle jumpers out of the way. Give us a thread FTE.
Awesome tip on the sway bars, thank you very much! Always wanted a Ferrari:-X10 I agree on the thread!!:-drink |
Bringing the 350 home
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...pscquvpzym.jpg Yes I drove it on the trailer http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7aajdlsz.jpg Freshly rebuilt 15 years ago before parked 351m http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psxdhusrp2.png Maybe someone can decode for me? http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psqb4pscxn.png Trashing these splits http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...pscsnhktl0.png Kitty likes it already!:-X22 Chewys just looking for an air conditioner :-X10 http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psrdm6ykgl.png Rear diff seems to have a locker, it got sideways a few times on me http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psrzhpxqny.png http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psjeeodzf0.png |
Ideas? Sure. I'd bring 'er back with a dually bed and fenders but not use dually wheels.
Instead, install single, fat, wide tires like Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pros which are favored by the pro street crowd. Mickey Thompson Performance Tires & Wheels http://img.tapatalk.com/a6f8484d-be57-baaa.jpg https://i708.photobucket.com/albums/...9/phantom1.jpg |
Originally Posted by HIO Silver
(Post 15228627)
Ideas? Sure. I'd bring 'er back with a dually bed and fenders but not use dually wheels.
Instead, install single, fat, wide tires like Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pros which are favored by the pro street crowd. http://img.tapatalk.com/a6f8484d-be57-baaa.jpg Those wheels are killer |
Another idea....
Instead of just installing dually fenders, widen the entire bed behind the fenders. The widened bedside areas could accommodate auxiliary fuel tanks, an onboard air compressor, auxiliary battery, tool & storage compartments, etc. Also relocate the tail light posts outboard and section to widen the tailgate and rear bumper to be..... w i d e r. Literally, a real "Flareside". |
Ooh, I like it. Lots of fabrication, but cool idea!
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Originally Posted by bkaul
(Post 15228758)
Ooh, I like it. Lots of fabrication, but cool idea!
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
(Post 15228702)
Another idea....
Instead of just installing dually fenders, widen the entire bed behind the fenders. The widened bedside areas could accommodate auxiliary fuel tanks, an onboard air compressor, auxiliary battery, tool & storage compartments, etc. Also relocate the tail light posts outboard and section to widen the tailgate and rear bumper to be..... w i d e r. Literally, a real "Flareside".
Originally Posted by bkaul
(Post 15228758)
Ooh, I like it. Lots of fabrication, but cool idea!
Originally Posted by HIO Silver
(Post 15228800)
I admit it... I have issues turning off my gearhead. :'( My imagineering is more or less 24/7.
Wife gets tired of me asking her to pass me tools in my sleep:-X10 |
Originally Posted by Jdeshler
(Post 15228872)
Axle plate
Does L S mean limited slip? :-X04 http://www.differentials.com/wp-cont...naDiffTags.jpg |
The reason that I put an 89 chassis under my 78 f350 was for the newer suspension and shorter wheel base, plus its lighter. Now that some cash has been freed up I'm picking up a f450 for the rear axle, rims and 460 plus a few other reasons. I tell you this because of the Sterling rear end. If your looking for one look for one thats 96 or newer as its the generation of axle that comes with a longer pinion and is a stronger rear. The next thing to look for is the triple spider gear set up. May as well put a nest on top of the cab as the kitty is going to be there half the time watching you. If I have a surpise free month I might be able to get started on my F350 to and there will be 4, 6 wheeler builds happening. What length is your wheel base, it looks like a stubby in the picks, sure has a nice rake.
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Originally Posted by privateer, eh
(Post 15229044)
The reason that I put an 89 chassis under my 78 f350 was for the newer suspension and shorter wheel base, plus its lighter. Now that some cash has been freed up I'm picking up a f450 for the rear axle, rims and 460 plus a few other reasons. I tell you this because of the Sterling rear end. If your looking for one look for one thats 96 or newer as its the generation of axle that comes with a longer pinion and is a stronger rear. The next thing to look for is the triple spider gear set up. May as well put a nest on top of the cab as the kitty is going to be there half the time watching you. If I have a surpise free month I might be able to get started on my F350 to and there will be 4, 6 wheeler builds happening. What length is your wheel base, it looks like a stubby in the picks, sure has a nice rake.
Thanks for the tips on the frame weight.. Yes, puddy (as I call her) :-X10 always has the #1 spot to observe every snip scrub or screw on everything I do to make sure she approves.. She's here spellchecking me now http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psvayiyukr.jpg [ |
Originally Posted by HIO Silver
(Post 15228918)
:-bigparty |
I think Puddy has a second life you may not know of or she has a doppleganger up here in Alberta. Our chapter leader goes by the same name, curious.
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Originally Posted by privateer, eh
(Post 15229140)
I think Puddy has a second life you may not know of or she has a doppleganger up here in Alberta. Our chapter leader goes by the same name, curious.
Oh yeah, she is a sly thing! |
Super clean truck, no rust
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psoqmqw8lk.jpg 351 I was afraid the squirrels toated away :-X10 http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psop7pqueg.jpg http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7a2geooy.jpg |
cool man, if it was my truck i would do the slight lower, and do the 80's fender thing, i would also be swaping in a 390 if it were me, or a 6.9or 7.3 idi disel, cool truck hope to see more.
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If you dont want those locking ring wheels, and you're close to Massachusetts, I'll take them.
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Originally Posted by greentruck72
(Post 15230677)
cool man, if it was my truck i would do the slight lower, and do the 80's fender thing, i would also be swaping in a 390 if it were me, or a 6.9or 7.3 idi disel, cool truck hope to see more.
Iv considered a diesel but I have a 7.3 (real diesel:-X22) so I'm pretty contempt there.. I do have dibs on a 460 if the M starts acting up on me..
Originally Posted by TheRedPheonix
(Post 15230751)
If you dont want those locking ring wheels, and you're close to Massachusetts, I'll take them.
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Personally, I would love to take on of these old dually trucks and make it into a CCLB dually. Put a 7.3L IDI engine in it and use it as an Airstream hauler.
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Safer more effective way to lower it would be to flip the front spring perch and remove the overload spring pack. If your not hauling more than 1200lbs you won't be needing your overloads and your over loads only affect your drive ability when they are working with a load on. Your other springs are a different story, start taking them out and the handling in the back end goes away. Theres no sway bar on these trucks and to counter that and to carry the extra base weight you have that large spring pack. Even with a basic regular truck box on your tipping the scales at 6400 - 6800lbs. My dump truck weighed in at 7910 empty and minimal fluids and at that weight I had an inch until the overloads started making contact. Because your using this for pleasure one thing that would help your handling is to relocate your shocks to a more verticle angle in order to get better shock action.
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As far as the bed goes I think this is one of the best executed takes on a dually bed for dentsides I've seen. Though I'd leave out the vent I think it would look sick on a lowered single cab.
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...stt90opm5.jpeg http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...sokx8t6ma.jpeg |
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Originally Posted by Old Reliable
(Post 15231399)
Personally, I would love to take on of these old dually trucks and make it into a CCLB dually. Put a 7.3L IDI engine in it and use it as an Airstream hauler.
Originally Posted by privateer, eh
(Post 15231584)
Safer more effective way to lower it would be to flip the front spring perch and remove the overload spring pack. If your not hauling more than 1200lbs you won't be needing your overloads and your over loads only affect your drive ability when they are working with a load on. Your other springs are a different story, start taking them out and the handling in the back end goes away. Theres no sway bar on these trucks and to counter that and to carry the extra base weight you have that large spring pack. Even with a basic regular truck box on your tipping the scales at 6400 - 6800lbs. My dump truck weighed in at 7910 empty and minimal fluids and at that weight I had an inch until the overloads started making contact. Because your using this for pleasure one thing that would help your handling is to relocate your shocks to a more verticle angle in order to get better shock action.
I have springs off the back of a 2wd F250 and I figured that would be a substantial drop or will it effect the handling too negatively? L Copy that on the shocks as well :- X22
Originally Posted by TylerJ150
(Post 15232161)
As far as the bed goes I think this is one of the best executed takes on a dually bed for dentsides I've seen. Though I'd leave out the vent I think it would look sick on a lowered single cab.
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...stt90opm5.jpeg http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...sokx8t6ma.jpeg I can't put 80's fenders on it now:-X10 Basically looks they cut slits, pushed the outter wall out and welded the gaps so it would retain the shape I was trying to conceive something similar but that captures it fully. .:-drink Does this truck have a build thread? Thank you for the share.. |
HIO, you've been at it for awhile:-X10
Someone will do it one day..
Originally Posted by HIO Silver
(Post 12779299)
First, forgive me for posting a pic of a Ram.
Second, instead of using Flareside fenders that look tacked on, how about doing with Ram did with their 2013 dually and go with a large but smoothed box flare? The dent could die to the flare and then reappear on the back side. Alternatively, widen the entire bed and rear end behind the flares to match the width of the flare. Here's a stock Ram and a Photoshopped pic: Stock: http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b...c4b5970c-800wi http://www.cardata.com/images/2013/R...500_Dually.jpg 'shopped with a wider rear bumper too: http://i50.tinypic.com/2db1mox.jpg C'mon... do it on a Dent. |
Originally Posted by TylerJ150
(Post 15232161)
As far as the bed goes I think this is one of the best executed takes on a dually bed for dentsides I've seen. Though I'd leave out the vent I think it would look sick on a lowered single cab.
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Unfortunately my brains aren't all that educated on F250s, been running F350s cubevans , conventional cab & chassis and a couple of IH 4270s and a Brigadier Topkick most of my life. I do know that there is a width difference between 250 & 350 dually leafs and it appears there's an arc difference with 4x4 springs. If you change springs you've got a lot of rivets to grind or drill out. The gvw on my F350 srw is 8900 and I think the gvw on my F250 CS is 8400, it may be 500lbs less but shouldn't be any less than 7900 as it would be useless as a CS. When I finally get to work on my 6 wheeler I'll be using the hood and front fenders from my freshly written off 79 to build my dually flares, really thinking about following the tri 5 step side wheel tubs as a basic design idea. Still debating if I stay below the racetrack or if I include it and blend the top of the fender into the body curve. It's going to be to much work either way so it better look good in my brain before I start.
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Originally Posted by Jdeshler
(Post 15232324)
HIO, you've been at it for awhile:-X10
Someone will do it one day.. I gotta give myself reps because that's some pretty good Photoshopping! :-X22 https://i50.tinypic.com/2db1mox.jpg |
Originally Posted by Privateer, eh
(Post 15232466)
Unfortunately my brains aren't all that educated on F250s, been running F350s cubevans , conventional cab & chassis and a couple of IH 4270s and a Brigadier Topkick most of my life. I do know that there is a width difference between 250 & 350 dually leafs and it appears there's an arc difference with 4x4 springs. If you change springs you've got a lot of rivets to grind or drill out. The gvw on my F350 srw is 8900 and I think the gvw on my F250 CS is 8400, it may be 500lbs less but shouldn't be any less than 7900 as it would be useless as a CS. When I finally get to work on my 6 wheeler I'll be using the hood and front fenders from my freshly written off 79 to build my dually flares, really thinking about following the tri 5 step side wheel tubs as a basic design idea. Still debating if I stay below the racetrack or if I include it and blend the top of the fender into the body curve. It's going to be to much work either way so it better look good in my brain before I start.
Very interested in seeing those fenders because I have an entire front clip put back..
Originally Posted by HIO Silver
(Post 15232495)
Yes. Yes I have.... who is gonna be that guy with the steel nards to take on such a project?
I gotta give myself reps because that's some pretty good Photoshopping! :-X22 https://i50.tinypic.com/2db1mox.jpg |
Originally Posted by Jdeshler
(Post 15232246)
Crews are super rare in these woods! Awesome advise!! Didn't know it was that heavy:-hair I have springs off the back of a 2wd F250 and I figured that would be a substantial drop or will it effect the handling too negatively? L Copy that on the shocks as well :- X22 That is amazing! I can't put 80's fenders on it now:-X10 Basically looks they cut slits, pushed the outter wall out and welded the gaps so it would retain the shape I was trying to conceive something similar but that captures it fully. .:-drink Does this truck have a build thread? Thank you for the share..
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I knew that looked like a 7.3! Now that's something I'd be interested in, a cummins, not so much..
No offense, the cummins is a great motor but eh, been done too much.. (flame on:-X10) |
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