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marcs724 03-11-2014 06:42 PM

questions about 2014 F250 vs F350
 
I know this has been discussed for previous model years, and I did a quick search but didn't find anything. It used to be the difference (mechanically speaking anyway) was just lift blocks. With the change in '14 to the taller lift blocks in the F250, what's the difference now? Just the helper spring? I'm looking to trade in my '12 and was wanting to go to a 350, but they're harder to find, and it seems to me that an F250 with the camper package is the same thing? Other than GVW and axle "ratings" of course. Or am I missing something else?

Thanks

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by marcs724 (Post 14154963)
I know this has been discussed for previous model years, and I did a quick search but didn't find anything. It used to be the difference (mechanically speaking anyway) was just lift blocks. With the change in '14 to the taller lift blocks in the F250, what's the difference now? Just the helper spring? I'm looking to trade in my '12 and was wanting to go to a 350, but they're harder to find, and it seems to me that an F250 with the camper package is the same thing? Other than GVW and axle "ratings" of course. Or am I missing something else?

Thanks

I have a 13 f-250 c/c lariat special order but when it was delivered I hated the way it sat. First thing I did was order the f-350 blocks and take it to my local spring rebuilder shop and had them installed. I was told by them that my truck was basically a f-350 because I had the camper package and plow package on my truck again that is what they said it hasn't been confirmed. I will be watching to see what other people say about this subject. :-drink

marcs724 03-11-2014 06:53 PM

Ya my '12 supercab does not have camper package, and my '14 regular cab does along with the bigger rear lift blocks, and both trucks have the plow package. The '14 reg cab sits considerably higher, and also doesn't sag nearly as much under load. So there was definitely some changes made somewhere. They're not totally comparable trucks, but still the '14's suspension seems way more firm.

senix 03-11-2014 07:07 PM

overloads, blocks and the door cert are about it.

Powelligator 03-11-2014 08:13 PM

Just out of curiosity, how are you guys getting the Camper package *and* the snow plow prep package on the same truck? When I ordered mine it would only let me order one package or the other, the "system" wouldn't let me order with both.

If you go to the Ford website, and build your own truck, same rules apply.

Are your trucks special fleet orders or something? Are both packages reflected on the window sticker?

-Joe

truculent 03-11-2014 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Powelligator (Post 14155268)
Just out of curiosity, how are you guys getting the Camper package *and* the snow plow prep package on the same truck? When I ordered mine it would only let me order one package or the other, the "system" wouldn't let me order with both.

If you go to the Ford website, and build your own truck, same rules apply.

Are your trucks special fleet orders or something? Are both packages reflected on the window sticker?

-Joe

X2 I wanted both and was told by dealer order guy it was not possible.

fordman19762003 03-11-2014 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by truculent (Post 14155407)
X2 I wanted both and was told by dealer order guy it was not possible.

my local dealer had some F350's on the lot that had both the camper and snow plow package

Evil Elf 03-11-2014 09:39 PM

The f-250 with the camper package has 350 rear springs not sure on the blocks, did not measure them, also has the rear anti-sway bar and the front has +1 springs. As far as I understand it the only difference between the f250 with camper package and the f350 is the front springs, rear blocks and the f350 has hydrolic braking opposed to vacuum assist braking.

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Powelligator (Post 14155268)
Just out of curiosity, how are you guys getting the Camper package *and* the snow plow prep package on the same truck? When I ordered mine it would only let me order one package or the other, the "system" wouldn't let me order with both.

If you go to the Ford website, and build your own truck, same rules apply.

Are your trucks special fleet orders or something? Are both packages reflected on the window sticker?

-Joe

This is my window sticker and was assisted by dealer when I ordered and built truck so it was available to get both in 13 not sure about 14 also the f-250 come with 1.75" blocks which I ordered 3.5" blocks 3 days after picking up truck and had local company install them when they came in. I hated the way the truck sat had to change them my wife thought I was nuts modifying a 3 day old truck. :-jammin

bell4fan 03-11-2014 10:36 PM

I just bought a '14 F250 CC Fx4 with camper package. Had the 2 inch blocks. After putting my tractor behind it, I bought the 4 inch ready lift blocks and had Ford Dealer install them. Love the look of it now. And it sets perfect while under a load.

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155857)
I just bought a '14 F250 CC Fx4 with camper package. Had the 2 inch blocks. After putting my tractor behind it, I bought the 4 inch ready lift blocks and had Ford Dealer install them. Love the look of it now. And it sets perfect while under a load.

the 4" blocks are what's on the 350's right ??? Because that's what I put on mine. Ordered them from ford dealer but had private spring shop install them .

bell4fan 03-11-2014 10:46 PM

Yeah I believe so. There was only one SRW 350 on the lot, but it had the 4 inch blocks.
Ive seen several people on here say the '14 250's have 4 inch blocks also, but I haven't seen one yet.

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155884)
Yeah I believe so. There was only one SRW 350 on the lot, but it had the 4 inch blocks.
Ive seen several people on here say the '14 250's have 4 inch blocks also, but I haven't seen one yet.

The place that installed them had me go to dealer and get under a 350 and measure them mine actually had 1. 3/4" blocks and the 350 had 3 1/2" blocks but ford May round them up to 2" and 4" blocks but it made the truck sit much better :-jammin

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155884)
Yeah I believe so. There was only one SRW 350 on the lot, but it had the 4 inch blocks.
Ive seen several people on here say the '14 250's have 4 inch blocks also, but I haven't seen one yet.

Before new blocks

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanggt24 (Post 14155898)
The place that installed them had me go to dealer and get under a 350 and measure them mine actually had 1. 3/4" blocks and the 350 had 3 1/2" blocks but ford May round them up to 2" and 4" blocks but it made the truck sit much better :-jammin

Sorry pic didn't upload here it is

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155884)
Yeah I believe so. There was only one SRW 350 on the lot, but it had the 4 inch blocks.
Ive seen several people on here say the '14 250's have 4 inch blocks also, but I haven't seen one yet.

After new blocks

bell4fan 03-11-2014 10:58 PM

Man I love that color. Had a 03 just like that. Back then it was True Blue instead of the blue jeans metallic, but its close enough. I did an impulse buy on a white one, probably my 2nd fav color behind the blue.

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155884)
Yeah I believe so. There was only one SRW 350 on the lot, but it had the 4 inch blocks.
Ive seen several people on here say the '14 250's have 4 inch blocks also, but I haven't seen one yet.

Sorry after blocks my iPad is acting up tonight !!!

bell4fan 03-11-2014 11:12 PM

amazing what that extra 2 inches does.

Stanggt24 03-11-2014 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155944)
amazing what that extra 2 inches does.

Well the way my guy explained it to me it ends up being more then 2" because u have to factor in the rake from the point of where the blocks are to the very back of truck :-drink

bell4fan 03-11-2014 11:19 PM

Interesting. Sad thing is we are buying these $50k trucks and having to immediately mod them to make them set how a 3/4 ton truck SHOULD set from the factory.

senix 03-12-2014 05:08 AM

Very nice! I bought mine off the lot with the camper and snow plow prep as well.

spud57 03-12-2014 08:59 AM

You would also have to replace the U bolts?

marcs724 03-12-2014 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155962)
Interesting. Sad thing is we are buying these $50k trucks and having to immediately mod them to make them set how a 3/4 ton truck SHOULD set from the factory.


Couldn't agree more!!!!!!! It used to be you only had to add airbags or something if you were hauling stuff you probably shouldn't really be hauling anyway. But now (or with my '12 at least) I had to add airbags just to keep it from looking like a dog dragging its @$$ across the carpet with just a moderate load, well within capabilities. Personally I'll never do airbags again, they've been a total disaster for me. But hopefully I'll never have to, since the '14 seems to be a lot better in this area.

senix 03-12-2014 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by spud57 (Post 14156716)
You would also have to replace the U bolts?

Bigger blocks mean bigger u bolts. Plus it is not a good idea to reuse those.

Stanggt24 03-12-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by senix (Post 14157044)
Bigger blocks mean bigger u bolts. Plus it is not a good idea to reuse those.

Yes u need longer u bolts which they replaced when they installed my new blocks on truck !!!!:-drink

spud57 03-13-2014 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Stanggt24 (Post 14158624)
Yes u need longer u bolts which they replaced when they installed my new blocks on truck !!!!:-drink

Do you happen to have the part numbers fir the blocks and u bolts?

Stanggt24 03-13-2014 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by spud57 (Post 14159616)
Do you happen to have the part numbers fir the blocks and u bolts?

The place that installed them told me to go to a local ford dealer and climb under a f-350 and measure blocks then get vin number on truck if it has the 3 1/2 " blocks then have them look them up and order them. As far as the u bolts my spring shop I believe made new ones or had them there at there shop. I will look in my garage I might have the box the new blocks came in I will look tomorrow Rich :-drink

bell4fan 03-14-2014 10:21 PM

I did the ready lift 4inch blocks. Came with everything. $315 installed.

F2502011 03-15-2014 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by bell4fan (Post 14155944)
amazing what that extra 2 inches does.

That's what she said.

F250s have the same rear blocks they've always had for this body style anyway. The confusion has happened because some dealers started installing the F350 blocks in new F250s before putting them on the lots to sell making it appear that there had been some change, but there hasn't been any change. If you see an F250 with its hind end higher than than level with the front wheels someone has done something to it since it left the factory.


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