Originally Posted by Crazy001
(Post 12823887)
Why is everyone so stuck on the idea of a solid front axle? I would LOVE to see a heavy duty IFS underneath the next gen Super Duty. :-X22
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Originally Posted by LSchicago2
(Post 12823748)
That's what GM is for. GM should add rectangular tires to match......
http://typophile.com/files/square-wheels_6612.jpg |
Originally Posted by stewcon
(Post 12824554)
Not True. My current '05 (which has been traded for a'13) has 143782 miles on it and the front end has never been touch. In contrast the last chev ('98) had the front end totally replaced at 73673 miles and was ready for another front end at 106759 miles when I got rid of it for my current '05. A solid axle is by far better than IFS system.
Originally Posted by A/Ox4
(Post 12824625)
Well you're in luck! All you need to do to get an IFS is get 2wd :)
I'm not trying to say that the solid front axle is a bad thing, but there are some great reasons for IFS. And the idea that you can't design an IFS system that's tough enough is a complete myth. I like my Excursion and it's solid axle, but I would like it better if it had a solid independent setup. |
IFS is great for serious off roading, and Sunday drives. solid fronts are good for heavy duty stuff. I think the reasoning is that our trucks are targeted at hauling not off roading. Obviously we push them off road but they aren't rock climbers. I feel that a SA is very appropriate. It would be nice to have the option of both, perhaps as a heavy duty front suspension package. But the overhead for such a thing would be too great.
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Originally Posted by Anomic
(Post 12811589)
The new design will come when new mileage standards force it. What is the gvw cutoff where they are not included in the corporate average anymore?
When the epa mandates the 25/350 get 25mpg you will see a manor redesign! And the 450 will become way more popular!! |
Originally Posted by Crazy001
(Post 12823887)
Why is everyone so stuck on the idea of a solid front axle? I would LOVE to see a heavy duty IFS underneath the next gen Super Duty. :-X22
-overall weaker than solid axle -hardly any suspension travel -more expensive/complicated to lift The only benefit is a nicer ride, which I don't see why everyone is so concerned with (i.e. the softer rear springs in the 11+ that squat like crazy). Its a heavy duty truck and should be designed for payload capacity, not a smooth ride. |
Originally Posted by A/Ox4
(Post 12824809)
IFS is great for serious off roading, and Sunday drives. solid fronts are good for heavy duty stuff. I think the reasoning is that our trucks are targeted at hauling not off roading. Obviously we push them off road but they aren't rock climbers.
While I'm sure it's technologically possible to engineer an IFS system that won't go pigeon-toed like when Chevys are pushed hard, I can't imagine it's worth it. They'll still be much more complex in design with more parts to break, more complex to maintain properly, more painful to lift, and more painful to work on. And while now the D60 is getting unit bearings for some reason, at least the have the option of switching back to proper spindles and hubs. By the way...Bruin008, you really think that old 4th generation Mustang was the best looking one? Really? Better looking than the 5th? I can't imagine you'll find too many people who'd agree with you. |
SFA gets my money. IFS goes to the scrap yard.
IFS rides like a car on the hwy. That is the draw to them. But too weak overall and not a serious competitor for anything of real weight in its current form. I Prefer the SFA especially for the heavier towing. You can avoid ESOF problems by getting a manual 4x4 system. |
Originally Posted by LSchicago2
(Post 12823748)
That's what GM is for. GM should add rectangular tires to match......
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It'd be nice to get an IFS for the 4x2s. Twin I's are fine until the springs wear down. Then they just eat tires.
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Originally Posted by MitchPeters
(Post 12825991)
Not like a GM. Like the '73-'79 wheel wells. The rounded ones have been around since '87.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...137805.520.390 |
Originally Posted by Firekite
(Post 12827497)
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Originally Posted by Crazy001
(Post 12823887)
Why is everyone so stuck on the idea of a solid front axle? I would LOVE to see a heavy duty IFS underneath the next gen Super Duty. :-X22
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Originally Posted by Firekite
(Post 12827497)
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Originally Posted by LSchicago2
(Post 12821777)
I buy v10's since EPA killed the diesels. No engine problems at all since 06.
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