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LSchicago2 02-09-2013 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by TexasRebel (Post 12817468)
if they don't put a manual transmission in it they can make it look like a VW beetle or a Ferrari for all I care. They won't get dime one from me.

If they had a higher manual sales rate, they would've kept it. Not worth the extra expense for the few who feel this way. Dodge will probably follow suit in a couple years too.

Snowseeker 02-09-2013 08:47 AM

Honestly the way trucks are going I doubt we will every see anything newer than the 03's.

TexasRebel 02-09-2013 01:02 PM


If they had a higher manual sales rate, they would've kept it.
can you get higher than 100%?

rollerstud98 02-09-2013 06:19 PM

The take rate on the manual was something like less than 6% in overall truck sales. Some will try and say it was because of emissions, but I don't believe that. Just Ford limited the packages that could get the manual tranny so the order rate was low. If they offered it throughout all the trim levels the take rate would have remained higher. But at the same time lots of the guys who were ordering the higher trim trucks were not taking manuals because they just wanted the ease of driving the auto's, especially since the introduction of the torqueshift.

Bruin008 02-09-2013 09:49 PM

all the ford keep getting uglier. the messed up the mustang, super duty, (did away with the crwon vic, my work vehicle). best body for the mustang was 04 and best for super duty was 05-07. 08-11 was ok..., but still like the 05-07. 12 body style......grill is messed up, headlights dont look good, bubbly fenders, and not a fan of the location or look of the fender grills and f series emblem. ford needs to overhaul their exterior. interior is nice from what i see. best body style imo is dodge, theve come a LONG way with the exterior look

Bruin008 02-09-2013 09:54 PM

on a side note, what about these diesels. im a fan of the older diesels where you hear the chatter and smell a true diesel smell. now the new ones sound like a gasser with a million miles with a back knock and smell like chlorine. idk bout yall, but some black sot on the rear bumper just adds appeal.

gilby959798 02-09-2013 10:42 PM

I'm hoping they at least add an option for hid headlights. I like how quiet they are, my 7.3 gets annoying on longer trips or when I have to take a call and can't hear who im talking to...

LSchicago2 02-10-2013 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bruin008 (Post 12820828)
on a side note, what about these diesels. im a fan of the older diesels where you hear the chatter and smell a true diesel smell. now the new ones sound like a gasser with a million miles with a back knock and smell like chlorine. idk bout yall, but some black sot on the rear bumper just adds appeal.

I buy v10's since EPA killed the diesels. No engine problems at all since 06.

MitchPeters 02-10-2013 10:13 AM

A retro dentside body design would be nice. Go back to the more rectangle wheel wells.

LSchicago2 02-10-2013 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by MitchPeters (Post 12822279)
A retro dentside body design would be nice. Go back to the more rectangle wheel wells.

That's what GM is for. GM should add rectangular tires to match......

White 97 xlt 02-10-2013 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by LSchicago2 (Post 12823748)
That's what GM is for. GM should add rectangular tires to match......

I think the last GM I rode in already had them!!!!

Tom 02-10-2013 06:25 PM

Why is everyone so stuck on the idea of a solid front axle? I would LOVE to see a heavy duty IFS underneath the next gen Super Duty. :-X22

MisterCMK 02-10-2013 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 12823887)
Why is everyone so stuck on the idea of a solid front axle? I would LOVE to see a heavy duty IFS underneath the next gen Super Duty. :-X22

People see what you get with the GM. Ifs with torsion bars doesn't ride as well as springs and look at the success that has been had with the current Ford setup.

Tom 02-10-2013 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by MisterCMK (Post 12823928)
People see what you get with the GM. Ifs with torsion bars doesn't ride as well as springs and look at the success that has been had with the current Ford setup.

That's true, but by those rights Henry Ford would have seen the success of the Model T and never gone forward with the development of the Model A, which was hugely successful. GM underwent a complete redesign of their IFS for 2011 and I think time will tell if it's much of an improvement over the previous design.

The current Ford system typically goes through balljoints before 100,000 miles, has issues with U-joints, needle bearings, and ESOF hub seals. Not saying that there's anything wrong with it, but there is ALWAYS room for improvement. And there are well-proven IFS systems that are out there.

http://www.oshkoshdefense.com/foleya...sVuE9SK3CzZjH0

stewcon 02-10-2013 08:34 PM

The current Ford system typically goes through balljoints before 100,000 miles, has issues with U-joints, needle bearings, and ESOF hub seals. Not saying that there's anything wrong with it, but there is ALWAYS room for improvement. And there are well-proven IFS systems that are out there.

Not True. My current '05 (which has been traded for a'13) has 143782 miles on it and the front end has never been touch. In contrast the last chev ('98) had the front end totally replaced at 73673 miles and was ready for another front end at 106759 miles when I got rid of it for my current '05. A solid axle is by far better than IFS system.


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