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Ford-Trucks Editors 06-19-2012 06:19 PM

Ford Releases Special Service Vehicle F-150
 
Read about it here: Ford Releases Special Service Vehicle F-150

The trucks include an upsized alternator for increased electrical loads. They'll also have vinyl seats for easy cleaning. In a couple of years, these'll be trucks to look out for when they go to auction.

kd0axs 06-19-2012 07:21 PM

I don't think the "Special Service Vehicle" is the same as the Interceptor as in the Taurus and Explorer, so I don't think these would actually be used for patrol vehicles. However, they will be great for things like Community Service Officers, Park Patrol, Fire Chiefs, Commercial Vehicle Inspectors, etc, many of which already use F-150s.

loydmeeks 06-19-2012 11:53 PM

We have Highway patrol driving F250's with a shell camper, Sheriff driving F150's. Getting hard to know till you pass or meet them as all lights are hidden.

tseekins 06-20-2012 05:38 AM

Ford is constantly playing catch-up in this arena. Here in Hampton, Va, there are a few 1500 Silverado trucks on the Police Force. They are used by cadets and regulars in all facets of police duty.

One thing to think about though: Will the larger alternator eventually make it's way into mainstream F-150's and enable them to offer a snowplow prep package?

meborder 06-20-2012 06:23 AM

wonder if that push bar will be available ....

that's probably the only full height grill guard i've seen that i actually like.

BillyBob69 06-20-2012 08:27 AM

They are used quite a bit here in Colorado. And pretty good performance too. The 4 doors give you the versatility of a car & truck in one. Great vehicles.

Tom 06-20-2012 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by tseekins (Post 11972696)
One thing to think about though: Will the larger alternator eventually make it's way into mainstream F-150's and enable them to offer a snowplow prep package?

Pretty confident that the alternator capacity has nothing to do with the fact that there is no snow plow prep option. I think that the only trucks that can be rated to carry a small plow are the HD trucks, and those are restricted to light plows for personal use only.

I don't think the front suspension was ever designed to handle the abuse of carrying a plow. That, IMHO, is the week link here.

tseekins 06-20-2012 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 11973839)
Pretty confident that the alternator capacity has nothing to do with the fact that there is no snow plow prep option. I think that the only trucks that can be rated to carry a small plow are the HD trucks, and those are restricted to light plows for personal use only.

I don't think the front suspension was ever designed to handle the abuse of carrying a plow. That, IMHO, is the week link here.


Non of the F-150's are snow plow rated, HD or not. The reason Ford gives is because the electric power assist steering (EPAS) draws so much juice that the electrical system can't handle the load of the electric snow plow motors.

The only F-150's that don't have EPAS are the 6.2L trucks and they are not rated for plow prep packages either but it has little or nothing to do with the front suspension.

I don't advocate plowing with a half ton truck but if the power is there to operate the plow motor what excuse will Ford come up with next?

Tom 06-20-2012 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by tseekins (Post 11974819)
Non of the F-150's are snow plow rated, HD or not. The reason Ford gives is because the electric power assist steering (EPAS) draws so much juice that the electrical system can't handle the load of the electric snow plow motors.

Huh...that's an interesting change. The previous generation ('04-'08) had something in the manual that the HD models could hang a light plow.


Originally Posted by tseekins
The only F-150's that don't have EPAS are the 6.2L trucks and they are not rated for plow prep packages either but it has little or nothing to do with the front suspension.

I don't agree. It has EVERYTHING to do with the front suspension IMHO. Looking through the chart on www.fleet.ford.com, the maximum front GAWR available is 4,050 lbs. The base curb weight permits ~5-700 lbs extra on the front axle before going over GAWR. Even a light plow, accounting for the weight levered off the rear axle, would place the front end over GAWR without even the weight of a skinny driver.

With the exception of the HD models the max payload is typically less than 1,500 lbs, with some exceptions. Add a driver, plow, and counterweight in the bed and you'd be over GVWR easily. There's a reason that no half ton truck on the market is rated for a snow plow. And it ain't the alternator. :-hair

tseekins 06-20-2012 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 11974875)
Huh...that's an interesting change. The previous generation ('04-'08) had something in the manual that the HD models could hang a light plow.



I don't agree. It has EVERYTHING to do with the front suspension IMHO. Looking through the chart on www.fleet.ford.com, the maximum front GAWR available is 4,050 lbs. The base curb weight permits ~5-700 lbs extra on the front axle before going over GAWR. Even a light plow, accounting for the weight levered off the rear axle, would place the front end over GAWR without even the weight of a skinny driver.

With the exception of the HD models the max payload is typically less than 1,500 lbs, with some exceptions. Add a driver, plow, and counterweight in the bed and you'd be over GVWR easily. There's a reason that no half ton truck on the market is rated for a snow plow. And it ain't the alternator. :-hair



I'm not going to argue with you about this Tom. The 1500 GM twins DO have a snow plow prep package. Check it out and see. It's my understanding that after the next redesign the plow prep package may be history for them as well. BUT for now, they offer it.

The owner's manual on my 2011 F-150 simply states that the electrical system will not handle the load of a plow. It says nothing about the suspension components. Light weight plows can be had and are significantly lighter than the old steel blades.

Anyway, I derailed this and I apologize to the OP.

BIGKEN 06-20-2012 05:46 PM

Tim is correct...plows are not allowed due to issues with the EPAS.

In Massachusetts Environmental Police use pick up trucks extensively...as well as State Police Truck Teams.

Tom 06-20-2012 06:41 PM

Sorry for the derail Tim. I loves me a good debate and I haven't had one in awhile. :-X16


Originally Posted by BIGKEN (Post 11975032)
In Massachusetts Environmental Police use pick up trucks extensively...as well as State Police Truck Teams.

I think you see them frequently, particularly in the northern US. When I was stationed at Fort Drum the local county sheriff had a half-ton truck or two, and the local law enforcement up here uses them as well. With the commonality of AWD crossovers that get great fuel economy, like the Explorer PI, I'm not sure how long this will continue for. I do know that my Fusion won't outrun an EB F150!

Wiggums 06-20-2012 08:38 PM

The Ford Lobo in Mexico (or a four-door F150) are used as police vehicles in Tijuana. It looks very plain and the wheels are also very plain. I found some in Flickr...

Municipal Police Lobo in Tijuana

Federal Police Lobo in Tijuana

BIGKEN 06-21-2012 03:42 PM

On another note...I found out today that a plow package will be available in 2013. See seperate thread for more details.

tseekins 06-21-2012 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by BIGKEN (Post 11978712)
On another note...I found out today that a plow package will be available in 2013. See seperate thread for more details.


Thanks for posting Ken! Looks like I had a crystal ball. :)

BIGKEN 06-21-2012 04:18 PM

They weren't going to do it Tim...until...they saw your posts!!! :-X04

meborder 06-21-2012 06:13 PM

other than the push bar and the HO alternator ... it's just a crew cab XL....

that's not to say i don't like it .... its just the fleet version of a crew cab, no frills attached.

1983F1503004x4 07-18-2012 06:26 PM

I think it'd be a good idea to put out a truck that could compete with the Chevy's and Dodge's that are making their way into the police forces.

Ford has had contracts with police departments for god knows how long (mid 50's or earlier?)! Why not put something out there to go against the competition wanting to take away the one thing Ford has always had?

Who knows, maybe the Ecoboost and the 5.0L in these police trucks will be reprogrammed to have a little more pep than the stock F150's. They'll probably be offering these trucks in 4x4 too.

Around here, all they drive on the roads are Tahoes, Suburbans, Crown Vics, and Chargers. I personally think this truck looks pretty slick myself.

2ndStroke 07-18-2012 06:48 PM

The Police department up here has a few superduty trucks all done up for the bush. Tires, wenches, offroad lights, they look pretty cool. I agree, a great idea from Ford.

Tom 07-18-2012 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndStroke (Post 12073890)
The Police department up here has a few superduty trucks all done up for the bush. Tires, wenches, offroad lights, they look pretty cool. I agree, a great idea from Ford.

I would really like to see more of them up here. State troopers use Crown Vics and Tahoes, while our local sheriff's department uses Chargers and Silverados. :-X16

kd0axs 07-18-2012 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 12074592)
I would really like to see more of them up here. State troopers use Crown Vics and Tahoes, while our local sheriff's department uses Chargers and Silverados. :-X16

State Patrol over here in MN used to use Super Dutys for commercial vehicle inspectors. Now they use a mix of Fords and Chevys...F-150s and Expeditions, Silverados and Tahoes.

http://images4.fotki.com/v39/photos/...pca0334-vi.jpg

They use quite a few of them for DNR Conservation Officers.

http://images57.fotki.com/v81/photos...ca18000-vi.jpg

Minneapolis and St Paul mounted patrol units:

http://images33.fotki.com/v1185/phot...pca3293-vi.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Gab4gl4BQO...ted+police.JPG

And just to give you one more pic, Ramsey County Sheriff has this one:

http://images36.fotki.com/v1203/phot...pca3370-vi.jpg

Tom 07-18-2012 10:56 PM

Huh...never have seen any of those trucks. I go to St Paul at least once a week, and I commonly see a Tahoe parked near the weigh station on 94 WB to catch folks running the scale. Of course I also try to avoid getting friendly with the local fuzz...

2ndStroke 07-18-2012 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 12074592)
I would really like to see more of them up here. State troopers use Crown Vics and Tahoes, while our local sheriff's department uses Chargers and Silverados. :-X16

I must be getting too brand loyal, I like it way too much when I see these driving around.:p

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/...7-09105427.jpg

My local department has another one thats jacked up a bit with a huge Road Amour type bumper, pretty cool looking.

AlaskanEx 07-19-2012 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 11974875)
Huh...that's an interesting change. The previous generation ('04-'08) had something in the manual that the HD models could hang a light plow.

HD '08 with a 8 foot super duty plow(NOT a light duty) and timbrens on the front. 2 seasons now and the customer has had no issues. he plows commercially.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ent/003-80.jpg

i've also done a 2010 HD with a 7'6" super duty plow for a local company..2 years so far so good!

Tom 07-19-2012 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by 2ndStroke (Post 12074870)
My local department has another one thats jacked up a bit with a huge Road Amour type bumper, pretty cool looking.

Get ready for a tax hike, as that thing's gonna need some tires soon! :-hair


Originally Posted by AlaskanEx (Post 12075120)
HD '08 with a 8 foot super duty plow(NOT a light duty) and timbrens on the front. 2 seasons now and the customer has had no issues. he plows commercially.

i've also done a 2010 HD with a 7'6" super duty plow for a local company..2 years so far so good!

I'm very curious to see how those two work out for them. I know that the GM pickups when operating over front GAWR tend to go through balljoints and other suspension items quickly. And those trucks are WAY overloaded on the front end! With any luck all will go well for them, but my comment earlier was all about the stated weight limits. :-X22

AlaskanEx 07-19-2012 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy001 (Post 12075631)

I'm very curious to see how those two work out for them. I know that the GM pickups when operating over front GAWR tend to go through balljoints and other suspension items quickly. And those trucks are WAY overloaded on the front end! With any luck all will go well for them, but my comment earlier was all about the stated weight limits. :-X22

both trucks have the plow prep pkg and are within the legal limits. you can match plows to trucks on THE BOSS Snow Plows - Snow Removal Equipment, Snow Plow Blades, Parts, Snowplows, Salt Spreaders and see what fits and what does not on said truck.

we are the only boss dealer in the state, so we do all kinds of installs. even installed a blade on a 4x4 ford van! but there are a good number of 1/2 ton plowers out there.

the worst one though that was way over weight was a '97 f-150 V6 4x4 auto with a 9 foot XT with wings on it. but they have been using it commercially for a few years now every time i see the guy i ask how its doing..so far so good. anything you plow with though is going to eat through ball joints faster then anything.

shortride 07-20-2012 05:10 AM

Personally I think the new Special Service Vehicle would be a great vehicle for law enforcement service. I live in a large county that has a lot of mountain, hills, rivers and creeks and the local sheriff's department uses trucks that are getting beat up pretty badly by the terrain. If the new Special Service Vehicle has better performance and heavier suspension, it would be an ideal vehicle for that use. I don’t think the article was insinuating the F150 was equal to the interceptors. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

msgtord 07-20-2012 07:03 AM


If the new Special Service Vehicle has better performance and heavier suspension, it would be an ideal vehicle for that use. I don’t think the article was insinuating the F150 was equal to the interceptors
Nope. All have stock suspension, drive train, and engines.


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