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camo86 05-07-2012 06:03 PM

4.9 np435/t18 swap
 
hey guys i have a 1986 f150 4x4 with the old 300 and im trying to plan all this out before i buy the trans. i have a few questions about this whole swap.

1)is the spline the same between a tremec rts and say a np435 or t18?

2)when swapping from the tremec to the t18 or np435 will i have to mess with a new transmission crossmember?

3) my truck is a 4x4 so between the transmission and the transfer case will i need to bother with the length of my driveshaft?

if anybody has any input to my cause it would be appreciated
thanks

Gary Lewis 05-07-2012 11:03 PM

Let me make sure - you have a Tremec?

camo86 05-08-2012 05:20 AM

yes i have a tremec rts 3 speed with overdrive. would i be able to use the same bell housing for both?

are the clutches splined the same?

Gary Lewis 05-08-2012 08:06 AM

I can't answer that question. I wasn't aware a Tremec RTS was ever used in these trucks. The Ford Master Parts Catalog lists the following as the only manual transmissions up through '86: 3-speed; SROD; NP435; T18: T19.

Has that tranny been swapped in?

camo86 05-08-2012 09:43 AM

not it is the stock tranny

Gary Lewis 05-08-2012 09:47 AM

So, I can't answer your question. I have no clue what the shaft size and spline count is. You should have told us it wasn't stock to start with.

camo86 05-08-2012 09:58 AM

i am almost positive that the tremec rts was in the 1980-86 f150s

ctubutis 05-08-2012 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by camo86 (Post 11806713)
i am almost positive that the tremec rts was in the 1980-86 f150s

Gary,

The Tremec also goes by the name of Clark and may even be referred to as the RAT/RUG, I really don't know for certain as we don't see it out here real often. Ralph knows a lot about it and could maybe explain if he were to stop by.

In any event, my understanding is that the 4-bolt bell housing pattern will accept any manual transmission used in this era, the spline count is the same all around (keeps Ford from having to use different crankshafts for different transmissions).

The parts catalog says the tranny mount crossmember is the same 1985/87 4WD pickups & Broncos although it wouldn't surprise me if its location needed to be adjusted and the driveshaft needed to be changed to accommodate it.

Camo.... Not trying to be an ass or anything, but I think one of the reasons why you're getting so little response is because it's hard to figure out what you're trying to say.

For example:

Originally Posted by camo86 (Post 11806651)
not it is the stock tranny

Not..... Not what? You're negating something but I have no idea what.

Capitalization & punctuation & correct grammar go a long ways towards asking for help on the Internet, and this place is certainly no exception. Gary is one of the most helpful guys here, but even he won't be much help if he can't figure out what you're trying to say.

Just sayin'....

82f100460 05-08-2012 11:11 AM

From what i've read...you may be referring to either the RTS or RUG. The RTS, I think commonly referred to as an SROD and the RUG being a top loader type.

In the article I read, they were manufactured by Tremec, but not marketed as a Tremec transmission...simply assembled by them.

You will need to get a transmission code or something before you'll ever know for certain what you have.

82f100460 05-08-2012 11:18 AM

Camo....as an FYI, all the information I've been able to find to help you, I found on Google. You need to try to find some of this on your own please.

We all love to help but you need to help yourself a little first. All I had to do is google ford f150 tremec and found out what I posted above.

Like Chris stated above...if you go to the Tremec web site, you won't find this transmission. It was contracted out by Clark to tremec of Mexico for assembly. So all the literature will be found under Clark....Including the Ford Master Parts Catalog

Gary Lewis 05-08-2012 12:02 PM

Ok, my mistake. Learn something everyday, and hopefully several things today. Thanks, guys, for setting the record straight.

camo86 05-08-2012 02:24 PM

sorry guys i'll look around on my own research and get back to you with some better questions.

thanks anyways

trumsey07 05-08-2012 05:03 PM

dont give up on it, i did this same swap last year on my 86 f150 4.9, 4x4 with the 3sp overdrive. the t18 will bolt up to your motor just fine. the cross member will work good for the t18 and your drive shaft is fine as long as you use your current tcase and tail shaft adapter. hope this helps you out

camo86 05-08-2012 06:39 PM

does the transfer case off the 3 spd with overdrive bolt right up to the t18?

ctubutis 05-08-2012 06:44 PM

Any transfer case should bolt to any 4WD transmission.

I forget the two transfer cases used - BW1345 and an NP variant, I think.


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